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58 minutes ago, Camden_yardbird said:

I turned on ESPN right before the game but had to turn it off because if Karl Ravich's lovefest had gotten any worse it would have been inappropriate for young audiences.

"The hallowed grounds of Yankee stadium..."  It's a new stadium for goodness sakes.  It used to be a parking lot.

Laughed out loud.  Thanks.

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3 hours ago, Frobby said:

I'm praying that Judge is having one of those fluky-good rookie seasons and that he'll never be this good again.   He did have that one 48-game slump where he hit .181/.341/.337 and struck out 75 times.    I hope there's more of that in his future.    If not, it could be really scary playing the Yankees for the next 15 years.   

I'm pretty sure that 48 game slump was better than anything Trumbo produced over any 48 game stretch this season.

I'm kidding.  Sort of.  Certainly from an OBP perspective it was better than anything Trumbo ever did.  

I think he's going to be plenty good for years to come.  It's been bandied about a lot, but he fixed his chase rate from last year to this year.  That 48 game stretch, it got a little out of line so he bore down and stopped chasing as much.  He's disciplined and that's going to carry him through.  

Imagine if Jones could lay off a low and outside slider.  

 

2 hours ago, JR Oriole said:

It is very frustrating that they have a guy like Judge.  And what about Gregorius?  Where in the world did he come from and why is he better than Jeter?  And scrappy Gardner is the worst of all.  Watching these guys have great at-bats in October is going to be torture after seeing our best hitters routinely underperform in the playoffs.  I think it was in the 7th where Judge led off the inning....it was an at-bat with close pitches that would have struck out all of our hitters....yet he patiently stood up there and took the walk.  It almost isn't fair. 

I've long held a theory that guys just get better on the Yankees.  There's something about that uniform and playing in NY that's just different.  

As big as an Orioles fan as I am, I can't help it.  I hate the Yankees because I have to, but I also have a tremendous amount of respect for them, they're the single most important franchise in baseball history.   You can't tell the history of baseball without talking significantly about the Yankees.  I've always looked at it as they got a jolt when they got Babe Ruth and that set the tone for their franchise moving forward and they've been riding it ever since.  I freely admit that I'm jealous.  But I also think jealousy vocalized is admiration.  

So when someone puts on that jersey and looks at themselves in the mirror and realizes they're wearing the same outfit that Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Jeter and plenty of others have worn, it's gotta be one of the coolest feelings ever.  

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28 minutes ago, Fla_O'sfan said:

Guess I'm the ultimate Yankee hater. I refuse watch any baseball until they are knocked out of the playoffs, which, of course, could be never this year.

I don't hate them at all. They're a well run organization. Have good players. Wish the O's could or would begin to change the workings of the organization to become successfully run for years to come. 

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7 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

I don't hate them at all. They're a well run organization. Have good players. Wish the O's could or would begin to change the workings of the organization to become successfully run for years to come. 

The Orioles can not afford to pay out 2 years (2017/2018)of $5.5 Million of a McCann type contract along with the final $21Million owed to ARod and then have a total of $225.2 Million in contracts for any year.  (Baseball Ref Contracts)

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13 minutes ago, ORIOLE33 said:

Moose Milligan has a very good point and it's frustrating as hell. "Guys seem to get better when they play for the Yankees." Didi Gregorious is a prime example. Was he this good in Arizona?

He was younger.   He has gotten gradually better, but more or less in line of what one might have expected/hoped for.

I do think that the Yankees emphasize plate discipline and passing the baton to a large degree, and players buy into it because (1) the team really stresses it, (2) the team has been very successful for a long time doing it, and (3) the surrounding players are very good and nobody feels like they need to carry the team.   Gregorius isn't the best example of that, since his walk rate is very low, but he also doesn't strike out a lot.    

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6 minutes ago, ORIOLE33 said:

I think Gregarious is a good example. Go look at his stats as a Diamondback and look at his stats as a Yankee. It's night and day.

And you say he was younger. By what, a year?

He must be aging slower than the rest of us.  He played for the DBags, I mean DBacks, 3 years ago. 

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5 minutes ago, ArtVanDelay said:

He must be aging slower than the rest of us.  He played for the DBags, I mean DBacks, 3 years ago. 

You're not following. He immediately became a better hitter when he was traded to the Yankees.

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Good points... hate the Yankees on the field... off the field class acts. Had the opportunity of being their guest a few years ago.. sat in the dugout with Jeter.. I’m an O’s fan but that was a thrill. All the Yankees took time to talk to us with exception of ARod & Teixeria ...anyway it does seem Yankees find ways to win with minimal talent.. better managed & coached some one wote & I believe that’s true.. O’s play very uninspired ball.. so if/when Judge fizzles in the years to come O,s will get him to pair up with Davis K records

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