Why not Lucroy?

[Dark Helmet]

1 hour ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Yet those other 22 weeks of the season were just magical for the pitchers, weren't they?

I do believe Joseph started quite a few of those game while Castillo was out. Does that not count?

[Legend_Of_Joey]

2 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

I do believe Joseph started quite a few of those game while Castillo was out. Does that not count?

Maybe this will finally sink in...

[Dark Helmet]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Other than Wieters, who was a Boras client and hyped to the gills, when have the Orioles played service time games?

What rookie has really warranted it other than Wieters? Mancini earned a spot last spring, yet didn't come North with the team. Was it due to service time, I don't know. 

[Legend_Of_Joey]

Just now, Dark Helmet said:

What rookie has really warranted it other than Wieters? Mancini earned a spot last spring, yet didn't come North with the team. Was it due to service time, I don't know. 

Mancini made the Opening Day roster last spring...

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

What rookie has really warranted it other than Wieters? Mancini earned a spot last spring, yet didn't come North with the team. Was it due to service time, I don't know. 

So you think Sisco warrants that treatment more than say Mancini or Schoop?

[Dark Helmet]

24 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Maybe this will finally sink in...

So, the pitchers were pathetic under Castillo and just awful under Joseph. You've convinced me. 

[Dark Helmet]

21 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So you think Sisco warrants that treatment more than say Mancini or Schoop?

I don't think Buck will start a rookie,  and I don't think Sisco sits. So either way, Sisco is in the minors...where he should be most likely. 

[Dark Helmet]

28 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Mancini made the Opening Day roster last spring...

You are correct. My mistake. It was a last minute decision even though he clearly earned it.

[Beef Supreme]

37 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

Not to worry. The team would dfa Susac or Wynns if they were to sign Lucroy.

 

26 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Susac 100%

That originally read, "Not to worry. The team would dfa Susac. Or Wynns. If they were to sign Lucroy."

The I edited it because I didn't like the sentence fragments. Stupid me.

Yep, Susac.

[Luke-OH]

Not arguing for the any particular Orioles rookie to get a starting job on opening day (although I’m on record as wanting a platoon of Sisco/Joseph), but I do want to point out that rookies often are ready to contribute right away.

In 2017 for example, there were 61 rookie hitters who exhausted their rookie eligiblity. 

30 players were 1.5 fWAR/600 PA or better.

24 players were 2.0 fWAR/600 PA or better.

14 were 3.0 fWAR/600 PA or better.

8 were 4.0 fWAR/600 PA or better.

Median production was 1.4 fWAR/600 PA

Mean production was 1.7 fWAR/600 PA

 

[Beef Supreme]

4 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

Not arguing for the any particular Orioles rookie to get a starting job on opening day (although I’m on record as wanting a platoon of Sisco/Joseph), but I do want to point out that rookies often are ready to contribute right away.

In 2017 for example, there were 61 rookie hitters who exhausted their rookie eligiblity.

30 players were 1.5 fWAR/600 PA or better.

24 players were 2.0 fWAR/600 PA or better.

14 were 3.0 fWAR/600 PA or better.

8 were 4.0 fWAR/600 PA or better.

Median production was 1.4 fWAR/600 PA

Mean production was 1.7 fWAR/600 PA

 

Nice. Got a chart?

[Beef Supreme]

1 minute ago, Beef Supreme said:

Nice. Got a chart?

or maybe a link?

[Luke-OH]

4 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

or maybe a link?

I worked it out on google sheets on my phone. 

I can post the data when I get to my computer, later tonight or tomorrow.

[Beef Supreme]

24 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

I worked it out on google sheets on my phone.

I can post the data when I get to my computer, later tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks! No rush. That would be interesting to see.

Seems like there have been a higher than normal influx of rookies -- from Machado to Harper to Arenado to Correa and Bryant and so on -- over the past five years than there used to be. Is there data about the impact of rookies per capita over the decades?

[Beef Supreme]

24 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

I worked it out on google sheets on my phone.

I can post the data when I get to my computer, later tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks! No rush. That would be interesting to see.

Seems like there have been a higher than normal influx of rookies -- from Machado to Harper to Arenado to Correa and Bryant and so on -- over the past five years than there used to be. Is there data about the impact of rookies per capita over the decades?