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11 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

 From MLBTR:

  • "The Orioles won’t trade center fielder Adam Jones this month, according to Cafardo, who writes that the 33-year-old “was open to going elsewhere.” Jones’ apparent willingness to leave Baltimore runs counter to various reports from last month, when he would not waive his 10-and-5 rights to join a contender for the stretch run. Now, having cleared revocable waivers this month, Jones is eligible to be traded anywhere, but it appears the longtime Oriole will end the season with them. After that, he’s scheduled to reach free agency."

Maybe the Orioles plan to give Adam a qualifying offer or maybe they are just being spiteful.

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9 minutes ago, atomic said:

Maybe the Orioles plan to give Adam a qualifying offer or maybe they are just being spiteful.

Or maybe the O's know Jones is just talking and that he wouldn't accept a trade.

He did make comments indicating he'd accept a trade earlier this year only to block a trade when one was actually in place.

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Also I don't know why anyone would want Cobb and Cashner traded.  The team is already the worst team in the league.  They would have to pay at least half of Cobb and Cashner's salary in a deal and we wouldn't get anything of value back.  I mean do you want to be the worst team in history of baseball next year?  There aren't any prospect pitchers who can't get innings because of them.   I see no point to trading them.  

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52 minutes ago, atomic said:

Also I don't know why anyone would want Cobb and Cashner traded.  The team is already the worst team in the league.  They would have to pay at least half of Cobb and Cashner's salary in a deal and we wouldn't get anything of value back.  I mean do you want to be the worst team in history of baseball next year?  There aren't any prospect pitchers who can't get innings because of them.   I see no point to trading them.  

Yes, I think they do.  That is the way the O's get high draft choices.  They  do that for three or four years and hope the high draft choices turn into a WS winner like the Astros and Cubs.

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I've made my opinion on trading Cobb clear. I think it would be a mistake.  I firmly believe Cobb missing ST hurt him. I think we are finally seeing the pitcher we thought we were getting. Atleast give him a full ST and let him start the season in Baltimore next year. Giving him away now would be a mistake. 

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2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Or maybe the O's know Jones is just talking and that he wouldn't accept a trade.

He did make comments indicating he'd accept a trade earlier this year only to block a trade when one was actually in place.

Or, maybe it's his mentoring of Mullins.

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1588418/from-student-to-teacher-orioles-jones-mentoring-heir-apparent-mullins

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14 hours ago, atomic said:

If some team wanted him they could have claimed him on waivers and the Orioles would have let him go.  I don't see why you think anyone wants Cobb at his salary owed.  And he couldn't even be traded without his permission.  I am sure Chris Davis cleared waivers and so did Trumbo.  

I think you are right that the O’s would need to kick in some money to trade Cobb.     But I don’t think it would be half his salary or anything close to that.    I’d say if they kicked in $12 mm over the next three years they could get a decent prospect back for Cobb.   And if I’m wrong, then don’t trade him now.

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2 hours ago, wildcard said:

Yes, I think they do.  That is the way the O's get high draft choices.  They  do that for three or four years and hope the high draft choices turn into a WS winner like the Astros and Cubs.

You get the top draft pick by being the worst team in the league.  There is no bonus for being the worst team in major league history. 

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2 minutes ago, wildcard said:

 KC is right there with them.

I was talking about next year with your plan to trade Cobb and Cashner.  Jones will be gone as well.  You then have a bad triple A team masquerading as a major league team. 

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