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    • I don't think that there's any doubt that the team is probably more focused on deriving attendance-based revenue than just raw attendance.   They'd probably rather draw 2 mm fans at an average of $50/ticket than 2.2 mm fans at an average of $40 per ticket.  At the same time, you don't want to alienate loyal fans.  It's a tricky balance.   And as you say, the only time we see any gate revenue numbers is when Forbes published its annual numbers, and we don't even know where those come from or how accurate they are.  So, we discuss attendance because those numbers are published daily.   
    • In the spirit of the upcoming Boston series; David Ortiz said two things that are worth quoting in this tread: 1. "Baseball is a hard game to play; so no matter what uniform you wear, you have something in common with the guy in the other dugout: we all fail. The game is built that way." 2. "Listen, bro: If you can hit a baby doll head with a broomstick, you can hit an inside cutter. You don’t need a batting cage in the Dominican. You just have to love the game. And you need to be able to fight off your sister when she comes looking for her baby doll.”  IMHO this game lends itself to over analysis. It's a kid's game. It's just that in the MLB everyone is making huge amounts of money to play it. They all have to justify their salaries. But in the end, it's still just a kid's game.
    • And moving Cowser down to 7th is smart too. I like this lineup and will be interested to see if it will spark some offense.
    • Hi Puck- From a marketing standpoint the Orioles will eventually reach a relative saturation point which I agree is around 2.5m then it's about leveraging money from the fan experience-winning being a chief component of that.   
    • I doubt it.   wavetrapper joined about 10 days before OOO was banned.   He might have some similar views but seems better at claiming some unique expertise or superiority.   
    • Yes, it's possible.   But we don't know the extent to which the "old school" stuff is still taught.   I wouldn't assume it is ignored or underemphasized.   But, perhaps it is.   Nobody was asking that question last year or the first 2.5 months of this season, though.   I doubt the approach was any different when we were playing .650 ball than it is now.
    • Sports Guy- Isn't attendance becoming more of a  legacy statistic similar to Avg v. OPS?  It's a very different era than 1965 when there were few suites or "premium" seating and hardly any amenities beyond a beer and hot dog.  Today a seat and it's attachment rate are not comparable between say NY and KC-and we've seen the leverage of corporate sponsorship with TRP.  In the Warehouse I would think growing attachment rate and corporate partners would at some point have comparable priority as a revenue driver.  Seat sales account only ~20% of revenue and shrinking,  The revenue tilt is upgrading fans/corps. to a premium seat at an average of 4X the price.   Although this slide is from '22 it details the discrepancy between teams that can leverage premium seating and suites.  Playoff revenue is also likely in this slide which benefits teams like Houston. There is no real way I have found to judge revenue other than Forbes-just food for thought.  
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