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A final look at Mountcastle and the other AL ROY candidates

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Roll Tide
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I thought Mountcastle was one of a few bright spots this year. You guys sure ruined that ?

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If he maintains his walk rate from this year his OBP will be fine unless you don't think he'll hit for average.  Personally I think he's going to consistently hit in the .280-.300 range and would expe

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Imagine he'd been an average first baseman the whole year.  He had a 112 OPS+.  The median OPS+ for players who played at least 81 games at 1B or DH was 128.  He was a below-average hitting player for

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25 minutes ago, Ridgway22 said:

Wander Franco would have been worth 6.86 rWar with same number of plate appearances of Randy Rice-a-Rena?

Damn, that's a helluva season.

 (Just in case there are any Sox or Yanks fans reading, Arroz is rice in Spanish.)

Jose Mesa - Joe Table

Pedro Feliz - Pete Happy

Jorge Posada - George Past

La posada is a festival. It Doesn’t mean past.  
 

Arozarena = Sandy rice 

 

There used to be a poster on here with an avatar of a Tejada jersey number 10 but had “roof” in place of tejada.  Made me laugh.  

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7 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He also dug himself a huge hole at the start of the season.  Was nice to see him recover from that even if he didn't finish strongly.

He had 2 good months in June and August. The other 4 months were ordinary at best, hardly worthy of ROY

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1 hour ago, MijiT88 said:

I am with @Roll Tide on this. He was a bright spot this year. Let's be happy we had a rookie who is in that talk and has a good future in front of them! There is no need to bash the bright note we have in RMC down to nothing, be excited, be happy and be glad we have this kid on our team!

Is anyone bashing him?    

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21 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Is anyone bashing him?    

My takeaway from reading this is that no one was saying hey good job RMC you did great! it was all well he wasnt really that good or he shouldnt be in the discussion, just seems very debbie downer in here

 

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26 minutes ago, MijiT88 said:

My takeaway from reading this is that no one was saying hey good job RMC you did great! it was all well he wasnt really that good or he shouldnt be in the discussion, just seems very debbie downer in here

 

He’s not a ROY, but he’s a solid average player, and god knows we need some more of them. He’s not the first guy I shove out of the lifeboat, but he wouldn’t be the last, either.

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3 hours ago, MijiT88 said:

My takeaway from reading this is that no one was saying hey good job RMC you did great! it was all well he wasnt really that good or he shouldnt be in the discussion, just seems very debbie downer in here

 

Well, let me put things in a more positive light.   There were at least 72 hitters and 68 pitchers who played enough to complete their rookie status in 2021 (career total of 130 AB or 50 IP; there are also players who completed rookie status  based on service time criteria that I can’t easily track).   So that’s at least 140 guys, probably more like 150.   And there’s another couple hundred players who debuted in 2020-21 but still haven’t played enough to lose their rookie status.   Of all those guys, Mountcastle was probably in the top ten or so.   That’s pretty damned good if you ask me, even if there are some better ROY candidates.   

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He's a significant player to me as the first one I expect to be part of the Next Good Team to hit the show.   Of course any successful team needs its Means/Mullins type wins, but those feel less like aimed shots and more like found money.

Santander was almost like that too, but he's gotten squishy.

Mountcastle and the high school pitchers are also kind of fun guys for the mix, since I feel like for the present regime they are the kind of draft choices we wouldn't be caught dead with these days.   I see some similarities between say Henderson/Mayo and Mountcastle, but would guess even there the younger guys weren't the free swingers Mountcastle was as a prep.

I think somewhere between Grayson and Mountcastle there's a threshold where maybe your talent is just rare and brilliant enough you can hit the ground running, but Mountcastle to me was always going to be someone MLB arms would school for a while.   

It was a nice 60th percentile kind of year for me, and now Chris Sale is starting to have to be scared.   He'll be more scared in the future.

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59 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Mountcastle Is not among the three finalists for ROY.  It’s Arozarena, Franco and Garcia (as I guessed in the OP).

And with all respect, that is as it should be. Mountcastle has too many issues to be a serious ROY candidate. He will be a solid player, and will make many many dollars, but he’s not elite and never will be.

Arozerena Probably has the award locked up, but my own choice is Garcia. It was so much fun to watch him play defense, and he was able to hit as well. And such a surprising story! nobody expected him to do anything, not even the Rangers.

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2 hours ago, Philip said:

And with all respect, that is as it should be. Mountcastle has too many issues to be a serious ROY candidate. He will be a solid player, and will make many many dollars, but he’s not elite and never will be.

Arozerena Probably has the award locked up, but my own choice is Garcia. It was so much fun to watch him play defense, and he was able to hit as well. And such a surprising story! nobody expected him to do anything, not even the Rangers.

Wrong Garcia.

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