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Luis Castillo--Trade Target


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According to MLB TradeRumours the Reds are open to trading starting pitcher Luis Castillo.  Two years of team control remaining.  Career 3.72 ERA and never been on the IL.  Reds asking price is reported to be high.  Should we be interested?  If so, what type of package would it take to get him?

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/reds-willing-to-discuss-luis-castillo-in-trade-talks.html

 

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23 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Absolutely should be looking into him but at what cost?  I can’t see dealing any of the top 9 guys in our system for  him but I could see dealing a few guys outside the top 10.

No chance Reds would go for that kinda deal.  I'm thinking it would take D.L Hall and another top 10 prospect to at least grab their attention.  

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7 minutes ago, rudyrooster said:

No chance Reds would go for that kinda deal.  I'm thinking it would take D.L Hall and another top 10 prospect to at least grab their attention.  

Probably  but I wouldn’t do that. 

Guys outside our top 10 would be players inside a lot of other teams top 10.  

 

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1 hour ago, rudyrooster said:

No chance Reds would go for that kinda deal.  I'm thinking it would take D.L Hall and another top 10 prospect to at least grab their attention.  

I’m not trying to be rude but if you think that’s the type of package it would take to get Castillo then why entertain the notion at all? For two years of an okay to decent starter at the tail end of a rebuild it would be crazy to trade a package of some of your best prospects.

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8 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

I don't think they pick up the phone unless Cowser is on the table, maybe Gunner.

Ha! At that price they’ll keep him till they are old and Gray.

Depending on the strength of their farm system, which I have not checked, they might be interested in a quantity trade with one meaningful piece.

would they take Baumann, Sedlock and Neustrom, for instance?

remember that the Orioles have a terrible reputation with ruining pitchers, So it’s not at all unexpected that the Cincinnati people will say, “well, Sedlock has been terrible but we can fix them.”

or something similar.

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5 minutes ago, Philip said:

Ha! At that price they’ll keep him till they are old and Gray.

Depending on the strength of their farm system, which I have not checked, they might be interested in a quantity trade with one meaningful piece.

would they take Baumann, Sedlock and Neustrom, for instance?

remember that the Orioles have a terrible reputation with ruining pitchers, So it’s not at all unexpected that the Cincinnati people will say, “well, Sedlock has been terrible but we can fix them.”

or something similar.

Castillo is their version of Means next year (two years of control). Would we trade Means for some other team's Baumann, Sedlock, and Neustrom? I would think Elias would try to do better. If we were already contending I would trade a player like Cowser in a heartbeat to fill out my rotation with Castillo but at this moment we need Cowser type players more than we need Castillo.

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8 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Castillo is their version of Means next year (two years of control). Would we trade Means for some other team's Baumann, Sedlock, and Neustrom? I would think Elias would try to do better. If we were already contending I would trade a player like Cowser in a heartbeat to fill out my rotation with Castillo but at this moment we need Cowser type players more than we need Castillo.

I appreciate that, it’s mainly a thought exercise, because you’re exactly right, we don’t need another guy like John, we should more logically trade him.

But my point is valid regarding the Orioles reputation for really terrible pitching development, so it’s not at all unlikely That a team would see a pitcher like Baumann Or Sedlock or Scott And be confident that they can fix the problems. Plus there’s been yet more coaching change and we just dumped a highly regarded first rounder.

I don’t know anything about Sedlock’s peripherals, But I bet there are a few teams who bet they can fix him.

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14 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Castillo is their version of Means next year (two years of control). Would we trade Means for some other team's Baumann, Sedlock, and Neustrom? I would think Elias would try to do better. If we were already contending I would trade a player like Cowser in a heartbeat to fill out my rotation with Castillo but at this moment we need Cowser type players more than we need Castillo.

HOWEVER,

If Mike gets the OK to flip the switch and starting caring about fielding a good team in 22, then a team like the Reds would be happy for future pieces and would probably be thrilled to have a guy like Sedlock or(and?) Baumann to tinker with.

Neustrom is a meaningful prospect but we’ve got him duplicated. Norby maybe? We’ve got second and third covered, we can let him go.

And so on. Mike has done a good job of acquiring a surplus of legit possibilities, he can trade a few.

We need pitching, though, and this is how we get it.

IF Mike gets the thumbs up to flip the switch.

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1 hour ago, oriole said:

I’m not trying to be rude but if you think that’s the type of package it would take to get Castillo then why entertain the notion at all? For two years of an okay to decent starter at the tail end of a rebuild it would be crazy to trade a package of some of your best prospects.

I'm not advocating such a trade.  Just throwing it out there as what it would probably take to just get the Reds attention.

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1 hour ago, Aristotelian said:

I don't think they pick up the phone unless Cowser is on the table, maybe Gunner.

I personally would hope they wouldn't pick up the phone. Because there's no way I would give them the number 5 overall pick with six years of team control for two years of a decent starting pitcher when it's very unlikely we'll be competitive those two years.

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31 minutes ago, Philip said:

HOWEVER,

If Mike gets the OK to flip the switch and starting caring about fielding a good team in 22, then a team like the Reds would be happy for future pieces and would probably be thrilled to have a guy like Sedlock or(and?) Baumann to tinker with.

Neustrom is a meaningful prospect but we’ve got him duplicated. Norby maybe? We’ve got second and third covered, we can let him go.

And so on. Mike has done a good job of acquiring a surplus of legit possibilities, he can trade a few.

We need pitching, though, and this is how we get it.

IF Mike gets the thumbs up to flip the switch.

Yes, I think Cowser for Castillo is the type of trade we might do a couple years from now. 

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