Orioles five year lease extension expires today.

[EdwinRip]

Can I talk about Adam Frazier here?

[IPlayGM]

Debating this with some friends, so I will pose it here for folks who are more in the know than I:

1. Does this make it more likely that a sale of the franchise is coming?

2. Should they sign a long term lease and then sell, is that lease binding with the new ownership?

[Frobby]

9 hours ago, HakunaSakata said:

The Raven's literally gave a "verbal handjob" to Hogan earlier in the year. As someone else mentioned it's a bi-partisan part of the political game. 

“We thank the Board of Public Works and Governor Hogan for supporting this agreement. We are excited that M&T Bank stadium will be home to the Ravens for at least the next 15 seasons,” said Sashi Brown, President, Baltimore Ravens. “ 

Honestly, that statement is not nearly as obsequious as the Angelos quote about Moore, which mentions him four times.  Whatever.  Just get the deal done.  

[Frobby]

7 hours ago, Punchandjudy said:

Louis and the lawsuit are the wildcard here.  I don’t think it passes the smell test.  It seems a little too contrived for me.  I think it’s a distraction and maybe something for JA to use in the negotiations.  I can’t think of a single motivation to make salacious  arguments against your mother and brother while your father is still alive and your greatest asset is at an extremely pivotal point in terms of it near and long term valuation prospects.

The first part of your post made sense, but this part is real tin foil hat stuff.   Lou has been squeezed out of the Orioles side of the family business and he doesn’t like it.  Simple as that.  

[Can_of_corn]

26 minutes ago, IPlayGM said:

Debating this with some friends, so I will pose it here for folks who are more in the know than I:

1. Does this make it more likely that a sale of the franchise is coming?

2. Should they sign a long term lease and then sell, is that lease binding with the new ownership?

Yes the lease is binding.  Look at Tampa as an example.

[Going Underground]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

The first part of your post made sense, but this part is real tin foil hat stuff.   Lou has been squeezed out of the Orioles side of the family business and he doesn’t like it.  Simple as that.  

Speaking of Lou:

 

 

 

Outside attorney is named to take control of Peter Angelos’ law firm, assess whether it should be sold or  dissolved. 

Attorney William J. Murphy has been appointed conservator of Peter Angelos’ law firm, taking control of the practice built by the now-incapacitated legal titan and Orioles owner amid a bruising family fight over his assets.

Murphy, a partner with Zuckerman Spaeder in Baltimore, declined to comment on his appointment by a court order issued Tuesday.

Outside attorney is named to take control of Peter Angelos’ law firm, assess whether it should be sold or dissolved – Baltimore Sun
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/bs-md-conservator-appointed-angelos-firm-20230202-2tag4k5ydrbpdajdmrrdpizj2i-story.html

Edited February 2, 2023 by Going Underground

[Roll Tide]

10 hours ago, Going Underground said:

This is kind of personal to me.We have been working on this entertainment district since before 2014. Now it looks like Little John and Less is Moore the new governor want to get credit for the revitalization. F both of them. Sorry about my rant .

Horseshoe Casino/Warner Street Entertainment District – Caves Valley Partners
https://cavesvalleypartners.com/project/horseshoe-casino/

I agree ….but lots more needs to be done including cleaning up the area, get rid of the eye sores, and making it safer.

People win at Horseshoe and then get robbed in the parking lot. My buddy won and had to get a security escort because he didn’t feel safe. 
 

Tent housing under the end of 295 and in the grassy area between the lanes of MLK and 395. 
 

A lot still had to happen for out of town folks to feel safe in the area.

 

I hate the Angelos family and still believe they are one of the worst ownership groups in professional sports. I prey everyday that I wake up to an announcement of the sale to a new local ownership group.

 

 

[Going Underground]

41 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

I agree ….but lots more needs to be done including cleaning up the area, get rid of the eye sores, and making it safer.

People win at Horseshoe and then get robbed in the parking lot. My buddy won and had to get a security escort because he didn’t feel safe. 
 

Tent housing under the end of 295 and in the grassy area between the lanes of MLK and 395. 
 

A lot still had to happen for out of town folks to feel safe in the area.

 

I hate the Angelos family and still believe they are one of the worst ownership groups in professional sports. I prey everyday that I wake up to an announcement of the sale to a new local ownership group.

 

 

Agreed that there are still many problems and hurdles.Was in San Francisco and ufortunately homeless crisis is even worse.Also saw near my hotel that people put signs on their cars saying nothing to steal ,already broken into.

Checkerspot ,one of the Oriole caravan stops is moving to a bigger locations in late spring. One of the owners:

 

1421 Ridgely St. and Horseshoe Casino Baltimore are separated by a ramp for Russell St. The land underneath is owned by Baltimore City and is currently a homeless encampment that caught fire in February. Judy Neff said they are interested in getting a lease for the property and cleaning it up so it’s a safer pedestrian pass-through and could potentially be used for parking.

Edited February 2, 2023 by Going Underground

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Going Underground said:

Attorney William J. Murphy has been appointed conservator of Peter Angelos’ law firm, taking control of the practice built by the now-incapacitated legal titan and Orioles owner amid a bruising family fight over his assets.

Murphy, a partner with Zuckerman Spaeder in Baltimore, declined to comment on his appointment by a court order issued Tuesday.

I don’t know Murphy personally, but I know of him and I know his law firm, Zuckerman Spaeder, extremely well.   They are a top notch firm for representing other law firms, especially with respect to ethical issues and professional malpractice claims.   I can’t think of a better firm to sort out the Angelos firm’s issues.   

[tntoriole]

7 hours ago, EdwinRip said:

Can I talk about Adam Frazier here?

Exactly.. every other thread this offseason has 

[LTO's]

11 hours ago, Spy Fox said:

Was there anything unusually political in the statement? I share the pessimism about John that’s expressed in this thread, but like HakunaSakata pointed out about the Ravens, the comments related to the governor and revitalization seem like boilerplate stuff that’d be similar in most statements from most teams. 

Of course not. Over the years the Orioles have gone out of there way to partner with Hogan and his wife on numerous things and advertised that fact plenty. The projection going on with the reaction to this statement is hilarious. It's PR nonsense that every team would release. If you want something to get angry about you can start with the fact that JA most likely held out on the lease signing to get an even better deal out of the state while the Ravens were more than happy to receive the 600 mil they were given. 

[eddie83]

If I was a conspiracy theory type I would wonder if John Angelos/Orioles own any of the property of the area that is being fixed up. Not saying they do. 
 

At the end of the day the 5 year lease made no sense. The long term lease will get done and a mutual admiration societyesque statement and perhaps press conference will be held. 

[Tony-OH]

12 hours ago, Spy Fox said:

Was there anything unusually political in the statement? I share the pessimism about John that’s expressed in this thread, but like HakunaSakata pointed out about the Ravens, the comments related to the governor and revitalization seem like boilerplate stuff that’d be similar in most statements from most teams. 

I don't want to delve into politics other than to say there was nary a mention of Hogan is such glowing terms over the last 8 years by John Angelos. Suddenly, new Governor and he wants to heap praise when I bet Moore hasn't done as much as move into his office by now.

It's just so obviously political. Peter was pretty good besides a comment here and there of donating to who he wanted to but keeping the Orioles organization apolitical. 

That's the way I like my sports, the Orioles, and the Hangout. I don't believe John Angelos aggrees with that and it's one more reason why this team will be better when he's no longer involved with this organization.

[SemperFi]

14 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Redefine the paradigm?

That reads like what folks write to mock announcements like that.

 

Is it just me or does JA bear a striking resemblance to Little Carmine of "The Sopranos"?  In his speaking and writing he comes across as the guy that lives in his father's shadow, has never accomplished anything of note and tries to compensate for his perceived judgement by speaking with words he doesn't quite understand but if they have 4 syllables and can add a coma I seem smart right??

 

Edited February 2, 2023 by SemperFi

[eddie83]

1 hour ago, Going Underground said:

Agreed that there are still many problems and hurdles.Was in San Francisco and ufortunately homeless crisis is even worse.Also saw near my hotel that people put signs on their cars saying nothing to steal ,already broken into.

Checkerspot ,one of the Oriole caravan stops is moving to a bigger locations in late spring. One of the owners:

 

1421 Ridgely St. and Horseshoe Casino Baltimore are separated by a ramp for Russell St. The land underneath is owned by Baltimore City and is currently a homeless encampment that caught fire in February. Judy Neff said they are interested in getting a lease for the property and cleaning it up so it’s a safer pedestrian pass-through and could potentially be used for parking.

That explains why the homeless encampment is no longer there. There is fence around it now.

 

This is the area right off of the Russell Street exit off 95 correct?