I can't get over how much Angelos has killed off the fanbase

[DrungoHazewood]

13 hours ago, Frobby said:

I think we need to leave San Diego out of the discussion.  They truly seem to be operating at a loss.  I don’t expect my owner to subsidize the team.  But obviously if Tampa and Cleveland can afford the occasional $100 mm+ contract, so can the O’s.  

I think it shows that MLB's model is very different than some other sports leagues. There are soccer teams, Premier League teams, that spend 80-90% of revenues on player payroll despite having other expenses that have to be fairly comparable to MLB teams. You can do that. There are owners willing to do that. MLB just has a model where it's expected that you spend 30-50% of revenues on payroll and then get some creative accountants to claim that operating expenses eat up almost all of the remaining 50-70%.  The Padres have said, no, we're doing what we want to win.

I have to imagine the Padres owners get regularly taken to a private room at meetings and have it carefully explained that they're ruining it for the rest of the owners. "You have a great thing here, we're printing money, why are you screwing it all up?"

[Camden_yardbird]

I am going to publish an article where I interview the Pirates owner talking about the Orioles owner.  The title of the article... "Nutting on Angelos"

Two peas in pod.

[Can_of_corn]

9 minutes ago, Camden_yardbird said:

I am going to publish an article where I interview the Pirates owner talking about the Orioles owner.  The title of the article... "Nutting on Angelos"

Two peas in pod.

Even the Pirates have been locking up players.

[Frobby]

51 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Even the Pirates have been locking up players.

One guy so far.  We’ll see if Bryan Reynolds bites, but don’t count on it.  

We have no idea what conversations the O’s have had with any of their young players, so to say they haven’t tried to lock anyone up is pure speculation.  
 

[Sanfran327]

I have a feeling that most NOVA O's fans have heard the phrase "I can't support an Angelos-owned team anymore" umpteen thousand times over the years. NOVA was once the lifeblood of the O's fanbase, but then the Nats moved in, and even though they stunk until we both made the playoffs at the same time, they really did take away a significant portion of the fan base that was looking to start over with a new, local, non-Anglelos team. Then they went on and won a World Series (even if they totally pulled out of their butts, they won it and they earned it) and put a choke hold on many of those fans from ever coming back. 

However, with some of their own ownership-related drama going on over there, there is some unrest among Nats fans, but the Nationals will find a way to sell to an enthusiastic owner sooner than later and re-energize a fanbase with deep pockets and a love for their team. Same as the football team. Unlike our O's, who will have to endure public family feuds fit for an HBO series and rumors of relocation every year until they are forced to sell because the kids can't pay the estate tax on the team.

As I said in another thread recently, the day the Orioles are sold will be a day that rivals a WS title for many of us. OP is right on - Angelos has absolutely trashed the fan base, and it will probably take the next generation to repair it.