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I can't get over how much Angelos has killed off the fanbase


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2 minutes ago, spleen1015 said:

Not of fan of anyone named Angelos, but he did hire Elias and that's the best thing that's happen to the O's in my 46 years of life. I think you can blame Elias because of tanking more than Angelos.

If I hire a guy as CEO whose main trick is to fire off the expensive workers and hire cheap replacements which one of us is at fault if he does that?

You hire a guy that says we are going to tank hard for as long as possible it's still on you.

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10 minutes ago, Greenpastures23 said:

There were only 6,000 fans in Camden Yards for a meaningful game against the Blue Jays last year in August.

Unreal. Supposedly the best park in baseball too

Not saying this to agree or disagree with your premise, but pulling a single data point to base your argument on is generally not helpful when you're trying to make a point.  Not just here, but in general.  There's not enough context there to support what you're saying.

 

Better (in this example) would be looking at the season attendance numbers, or the trend shown by several season's attendance.

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15 minutes ago, Greenpastures23 said:

There were only 6,000 fans in Camden Yards for a meaningful game against the Blue Jays last year in August.

Unreal. Supposedly the best park in baseball too

Strange time to bring up attendance from some random date in August last year.  In any event, it will be interesting to see whether attendance bumps up in 2023 following last year’s unexpectedly strong showing on the field.  

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15 minutes ago, spleen1015 said:

Not of fan of anyone named Angelos, but he did hire Elias and that's the best thing that's happen to the O's in my 46 years of life. I think you can blame Elias because of tanking more than Angelos.

Something kinda nice happened in Orioles fandom about 40 years ago.   Longer than I have been around.

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7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Strange time to bring up attendance from some random date in August last year.  In any event, it will be interesting to see whether attendance bumps up in 2023 following last year’s unexpectedly strong showing on the field.  

TBH, if it doesn't, I'd fear the long term and non-baseball effects on attendance are stronger than we may be willing to acknowledge.  

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Just now, Pickles said:

TBH, if it doesn't, I'd fear the long term and non-baseball effects on attendance are stronger than we may be willing to acknowledge.  

Well, there are two main factors: (1) performance the previous season, which tends to drive season ticket sales, and (2) performance in the current season, which drives walk-up sales.   I believe Going Underground reported that he heard season ticket sales were up, but only modestly.  So, it really depends on whether the O’s play well this year so that walk-up is good.   

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