Umpire Scorecard Thread

[kidrock]

26 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Yeah, it would almost be a coin flip. That being said, I really don't blame the umpires. Having umpired games for 10-13 year olds, I can't imagine calling pitches with MLB movement and velocity with any consistency. It's just not fair to expect humans to be able to call it accurately. 

Agreed, i've been an ump and a ref for years.  Very challenging and I don't have super cameras on me either.  I give far more grace to the umps than most.

[bpilktree67]

The two biggest mysteries in all of sports.  With all the technology we have how can we not have a quick easy strike zone by computers.  The 2nd is why in the world are we still using the 10 yard chains in football.  You tell me we cant have a lazer that goes from the start of the ball on first down to exactly 10 yards away on a line and instead have to use some out of shape old guy to place a marker down somewhere he thinks looks good to decide if it a first down and then has to run out to the field if it close and again guess where to put it before he stretches it out to see if the ball went 10 yards.  

[SteveA]

3 minutes ago, bpilktree67 said:

The two biggest mysteries in all of sports.  With all the technology we have how can we not have a quick easy strike zone by computers.  The 2nd is why in the world are we still using the 10 yard chains in football.  You tell me we cant have a lazer that goes from the start of the ball on first down to exactly 10 yards away on a line and instead have to use some out of shape old guy to place a marker down somewhere he thinks looks good to decide if it a first down and then has to run out to the field if it close and again guess where to put it before he stretches it out to see if the ball went 10 yards.  

Gerry Sandusky said the same thing while he was announcing the Eagles/Ravens preseason game this past Friday night.

He did it while the camera was showing a rather chubby guy with glasses carrying the chain off the field, saying "...we still use guys with glasses who are no longer physically fit trotting out a pair of sticks"   as opposed to using technology.

He later issued an apology to the fat guy with glasses for saying that while they were showing him on the screen.

I'm a fat guy with glasses, I found it amusing.

[bpilktree67]

29 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Gerry Sandusky said the same thing while he was announcing the Eagles/Ravens preseason game this past Friday night.

He did it while the camera was showing a rather chubby guy with glasses carrying the chain off the field, saying "...we still use guys with glasses who are no longer physically fit trotting out a pair of sticks"   as opposed to using technology.

He later issued an apology to the fat guy with glasses for saying that while they were showing him on the screen.

I'm a fat guy with glasses, I found it amusing.

Yeah we were coming back from beach just last week and stopped at gas station to get snacks.  They had a carton you put everything in and put it under a camera on a mat and it gives you price.  We had 2 fountain drinks, a water, bag of chips, two cookies, 2 juice boxes and 2 candy bars and it told me in less than 3 seconds the cost of everything.  I was like wow that was fast.  

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, bpilktree67 said:

Yeah we were coming back from beach just last week and stopped at gas station to get snacks.  They had a carton you put everything in and put it under a camera on a mat and it gives you price.  We had 2 fountain drinks, a water, bag of chips, two cookies, 2 juice boxes and 2 candy bars and it told me in less than 3 seconds the cost of everything.  I was like wow that was fast.  

Hopefully they aren't just using folks in India to look at your basket.

 

[HowAboutThat]

5 hours ago, bpilktree67 said:

The two biggest mysteries in all of sports.  With all the technology we have how can we not have a quick easy strike zone by computers.  The 2nd is why in the world are we still using the 10 yard chains in football.  You tell me we cant have a lazer that goes from the start of the ball on first down to exactly 10 yards away on a line and instead have to use some out of shape old guy to place a marker down somewhere he thinks looks good to decide if it a first down and then has to run out to the field if it close and again guess where to put it before he stretches it out to see if the ball went 10 yards.  

Unions?

Those chain carriers got some strong collective bargaining mojo?

[Frobby]

For some reason, Ump Scorecard never published the results of Sunday’s games.  I really wanted to see the results of our 2-1 loss to Tampa, because I thought the ump gave Tampa 8-10 pitches to the LHB side of home plate.  But now I’ll never know if was as bad as it seemed to me!

[ShoelesJoe]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

For some reason, Ump Scorecard never published the results of Sunday’s games.  I really wanted to see the results of our 2-1 loss to Tampa, because I thought the ump gave Tampa 8-10 pitches to the LHB side of home plate.  But now I’ll never know if was as bad as it seemed to me!

 

 

[Aristotelian]

10 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

 

 

Woops, I had this one confused with the one up thread. Yeah, this guy was even more extreme with one of the biggest zones I have ever seen. At least it was consistent though.

[Can_of_corn]

[Frobby]

3 hours ago, ShoelesJoe said:

 

 

Only 4 wide calls here, not as many as I thought, but I’ll bet all 4 were against the Orioles.  And they’re pretty darned wide.  

[ShoelesJoe]

Yup, that call on Holliday was huge. I wonder why he's been screwed over so often by umps since he came up. Is there something in the ump's subconscious that tells him these hot shot kids need to be taken down a notch or two? I remember when Harper first started making noise in his rookie season he got drilled by an opposing pitcher "just because". Is it possible that some umpires carry that same attitude and on some level use their authority to call balls and strikes as a way to humble rookies? I'd love to see a study on how veteran players vs rookies are treated wrt missed calls. I'm betting the rooks get jobbed a lot more often than guys who have been around the block for a decade. 

 

 

[Rbiggs2525]

2 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

Yup, that call on Holliday was huge. I wonder why he's been screwed over so often by umps since he came up. Is there something in the ump's subconscious that tells him these hot shot kids need to be taken down a notch or two? I remember when Harper first started making noise in his rookie season he got drilled by an opposing pitcher "just because". Is it possible that some umpires carry that same attitude and on some level use their authority to call balls and strikes as a way to humble rookies? I'd love to see a study on how veteran players vs rookies are treated wrt missed calls. I'm betting the rooks get jobbed a lot more often than guys who have been around the block for a decade. 

 

 

This system helps but not exact. The Holiday call cannot be understated. The difference in a 2-2 count and 3-1 count is massive. I don’t think it’s a conspiracy on Holiday. The umpires are just bad and we saw Cowser strike out in a 5-0 count three days ago. 

[ShoelesJoe]

Kimbrel and Wills duking it out to see who could have the worse game. Kimbrel might end up unemployed, but nothing will happen to the ump. 
 

 

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, ShoelesJoe said:

Kimbrel and Wills duking it out to see who could have the worse game. Kimbrel might end up unemployed, but nothing will happen to the ump. 
 

 

As shown on the chart, that's about an average game for the ump.   Nothing uniquely awful about his performance, just the average amount of umpire awfulness.