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Pat Kelly

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Am looking forward to the season being over.  Yankees are taking full advantage of the O’s ineptitude - as they should.  

Team is so inept offensively and does not seem fixable.  Bad combo of too many players still trying to figure things out. Have no idea what to expect over the next 2 weeks,  but currently they are unwatchable and an overall joyless bunch.  

Need new dugout leadership that can help this team unlock its potential,  Hyde is no longer the answer and I think he knows it. 

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Plenty of teams limp into the playoffs and then make a deep run. This team has enough talent to do it, I just want to see Mayo and Kjerstad finally given a shot to play every day (put Kjerstad in RF, Santander at 1B, Mayo the full time DH), and move away from struggling/low ceiling vets like O'Hearn, Eloy, Rivera, and Slater. 

Mayo and Kjerstad playing regularly and Westburg making it back for the playoffs could transform the lineup. I think Hyde is a terrible manager who can't write out a good lineup to save his life, but this offense has been so bad for so long that I think even he's capable of making those changes. 

If Webb, Coloumbe, and Grayson can all make it back healthy, they'll also make a difference. 

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You just can’t win with an offense this bad. It was an overreaction a month ago when they were getting called embarrassing or pathetic after a bad game. It legitimately might be an understatement at this point. 

They have scored 4 runs or less in 19 out of their last 24 games (and 11 of their last 12 games) against teams that aren’t the Rockies or the White Sox. In those 19 games, they have scored 44 total runs (2.32 per game). In two of those games, they scored exactly 5 runs. In another, they scored 10 runs and lost. In another, they had 2 runs going into the 8th. Again, anyone complaining about this offense is underselling it at this point. In total, they have 80 runs in those 24 games (3.33 per game). In their last 8 games overall (including the White Sox), they have scored 15 runs.

This offense is completely broken.

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33 minutes ago, Brooks The Great said:

Plenty of teams limp into the playoffs and then make a deep run. This team has enough talent to do it, I just want to see Mayo and Kjerstad finally given a shot to play every day (put Kjerstad in RF, Santander at 1B, Mayo the full time DH), and move away from struggling/low ceiling vets like O'Hearn, Eloy, Rivera, and Slater. 

Mayo and Kjerstad playing regularly and Westburg making it back for the playoffs could transform the lineup. I think Hyde is a terrible manager who can't write out a good lineup to save his life, but this offense has been so bad for so long that I think even he's capable of making those changes. 

If Webb, Coloumbe, and Grayson can all make it back healthy, they'll also make a difference. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mayo hitting well below .100 (like he had 2 or 3 hits total in two major league stints)?  How is he a solution to replace O'Hearn?  Mayo shouldn't even be in the majors at this point.   He and Holliday are clearly not ready. 

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Posts like this conjure the image of the miner digging down into the earth, he’s getting closer and closer to the treasure of gold and diamonds that we see are just a few feet further down, but the miner gives up before he reaches his just reward. 
 

keep digging. And when you think all is lost, dig with reckless abandon. 

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4 minutes ago, Explosivo said:

Posts like this conjure the image of the miner digging down into the earth, he’s getting closer and closer to the treasure of gold and diamonds that we see are just a few feet further down, but the miner gives up before he reaches his just reward. 
 

keep digging. And when you think all is lost, dig with reckless abandon. 

The Orioles are like the story of Floyd Collins in the Sand Cave in Kentucky.  He kept digging

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Baseball fandom said:

You think. Lol. It doesn't matter to me if they 4,  5 or 6. Seed . They look like a team that will be swept again.

They will be if they keep hitting at this rate. The pitching should be in decent shape actually. With a good offense they could still be the team to beat in the AL. At this rate, they would likely get swept in 2 games and score 5 total runs though. 

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I don't post my opinion very often here on the Hangout.  I'm a diehard (since 1968) bury me wearing my #8 Orioles jersey and 8x10 glossy of Brooksie fanatic.  Just so you know where I'm coming from.  Bright days are ahead for this franchise, but right now it's terribly frustrating for all of us.  Let's just hope we can "hang on" and make the playoffs.  Then we'll see how the dice roll.

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2 hours ago, Yossarian said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mayo hitting well below .100 (like he had 2 or 3 hits total in two major league stints)?  How is he a solution to replace O'Hearn?  Mayo shouldn't even be in the majors at this point.   He and Holliday are clearly not ready. 

Here's the issue I see. Holliday is being treated like most of the top prospects in the game. Basically play them everyday and let them go through their struggles and get "initiated" into the MLB. On the other hand Kjerstad and now Mayo are only used sporadically. One error or an 0-4 game and they ride the bench for a 3-4 days. Meanwhile over the hill guys like Jiminez and Rivera get plenty of chances.

Give them a real chance.

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