This Year Has Turned Into A Disaster.

[DrinkinWithFermi]

3 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

I haven't watched a single game since the Orioles were eliminated and the odds of that changing before the end of the WS are probably less than 50-50, so I don't really care who wins.

It won't be the Orioles so...  

I am glad the Yankees beat the Royals though.

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, interloper said:

I think even as it pertains to baseball. We're calling back to back playoff appearances a disaster? I know it felt like one in the moment, but dang. 

And yeah the Yankees suck but they do have some really good players. I hope they get swept by the Dodgers for sure. 

I can see why some would say the results of our back to back playoffs were a disaster.  I'd lean more towards highly disappointing....but disaster has a nice ring to it.  Dude, we didn't even win a game.  We scored one run in two games this year.  Not only did we not win a game but we didn't look competitive last year...this year, our pitching was good but the bats were just completely inept.

So I can see why some would say it's a disaster.  And I can see why some would call it a disaster that we've been swept twice in a row but the Yankees are in a position to win a World Series...that's just salt on an open wound.  

[interloper]

8 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I can see why some would say the results of our back to back playoffs were a disaster.  I'd lean more towards highly disappointing....but disaster has a nice ring to it.  Dude, we didn't even win a game.  We scored one run in two games this year.  Not only did we not win a game but we didn't look competitive last year...this year, our pitching was good but the bats were just completely inept.

So I can see why some would say it's a disaster.  And I can see why some would call it a disaster that we've been swept twice in a row but the Yankees are in a position to win a World Series...that's just salt on an open wound.  

I hear you and trust me I share the frustration. But I also felt like I had 2 months of watching the way they were playing to prepare me for the WC series. So it wasn't that surprising or shocking like it was in 2023. 

But yeah, 0 playoff wins in 2 years is definitely ass. No question. 

[RavensNOsGuy]

3 hours ago, interloper said:

I hear you and trust me I share the frustration. But I also felt like I had 2 months of watching the way they were playing to prepare me for the WC series. So it wasn't that surprising or shocking like it was in 2023. 

But yeah, 0 playoff wins in 2 years is definitely ass. No question. 

What sucks is the NYY are not even that good. They make tons of mental mistakes every game, but their stars step up when it matters unlike the O's. We played like crap for 3 months so it wasnt surprising we lost to the Royals, but I would not of been surprised to see us go to the WS if we would have won those 2 games. We could have beaten NYY/CLE - it wasnt like we were going to have to go up against the 2017-2022 Astros.

[JR Oriole]

Really is a tale of two seasons.  First two and a half months was a huge success. From June 20 on, the season has been pretty bad. If the Yankees cap it off with a WS title, it would be a fitting end to the most disappointing Orioles season I can remember (relative to expectations).  2024 is certainly not a season I will look back on with any fondness.  

[Just Regular]

The Yankees holding serve has kind of moved me to rooting for the Dodgers now for preventative purposes.

Some of why this year's exit stings a little extra as crap form and all we still may have been the best other team in the AL field to beat NYY.

[milbest77]

It’s the Yankees’ year, unfortunately. It’ll be them and the Ohtani’s in the WS, but they’ve got the mojo. And they’re playing like poo (base running gaffs) and still winning comfortably.

[Big Al]

It’s frustrating, because when firing on all cylinders, the Yankees were our bitch this season. 

[milbest77]

Hindsight is, of course, 20/20, but I have a hard time believing Jazz Chisholm wouldn’t have been a major difference maker for us. 

[Safelykept]

On 10/15/2024 at 10:57 PM, ORIOLE33 said:

I'll root for whoever I want to lose, thank you. But since you brought it up. Who doesn't root for the Yankees to lose? 

Surprised nobody's bumped this yet, the Skanks lost last night. No Cartwheels?

[Allan Bryant]

On 10/16/2024 at 9:30 AM, DrinkinWithFermi said:

I am glad the Yankees beat the Royals though.

I hate rooting for the Yankees but seeing the KC Royals getting eliminated after they eliminated our Orioles is a little consolation . 

[SilverRocket]

Clase blew it in a big moment. Jack Flaherty was lights out for months and sucked today.

Everything playoffs is a crapshoot. You can make up whatever narrative about what happened with the O's in two games, or whatever's happening with the teams still in it, but it's a dice roll. I hope the O's front office doesn't overreact, and I don't think they will. This year's dice roll sucked, I just want a great regular season next year for the chance to roll again.

[JR Oriole]

1 hour ago, SilverRocket said:

Clase blew it in a big moment. Jack Flaherty was lights out for months and sucked today.

Everything playoffs is a crapshoot. You can make up whatever narrative about what happened with the O's in two games, or whatever's happening with the teams still in it, but it's a dice roll. I hope the O's front office doesn't overreact, and I don't think they will. This year's dice roll sucked, I just want a great regular season next year for the chance to roll again.

While I do agree that there is luck involved in a lot of cases, I think this statement discounts the accomplishments of players like David Ortiz and lets our guys off the hook a bit too much.  The Red Sox went to the World Series 4 times in the Ortiz era and won every single one of them.  I feel like his 1.372 OPS in 14 WS games played a huge part in that and I don't think that is a crapshoot. He carried those teams and took the pressure off of everyone else.

I also don't think our 0-5 record in the playoffs in the last two years and our hitters collectively failing in that 5th inning against KC are a crapshoot.  Those individual at-bats for Santander, Cowser, and Adley were very much in line with what they were doing wrong for much of the season. 

A "dice roll" feels to me like everyone is on equal footing from a physical, mental, and experience standpoint and I just don't see that with our players relative to other teams' players.  I think the mental part plays a huge role in things.  Kind of like how the Minnesota Twins lost 18 consecutive playoff games over 19 years. While the individual players were different, I have to believe the later teams started to feel a ton of pressure to reverse that trend.  Our guys are working on a 10 game streak now and even though this Os team is only responsible for 5 of them, the pressure will only get worse each season.  

I would love a chance to roll again next season.  But they can't keep firing blanks when they get there. That narrative is old and tired.  

[JR Oriole]

Actually, it was three times with Ortiz.  They won the fourth one in 2018 after he had retired.  

[e16bball]

5 hours ago, SilverRocket said:

Clase blew it in a big moment. Jack Flaherty was lights out for months and sucked today.

Everything playoffs is a crapshoot. You can make up whatever narrative about what happened with the O's in two games, or whatever's happening with the teams still in it, but it's a dice roll. I hope the O's front office doesn't overreact, and I don't think they will. This year's dice roll sucked, I just want a great regular season next year for the chance to roll again.

You’re not really allowed to say that.

How guys happen to perform for a couple weeks in October is a matter of their character and personal makeup. It’s not random. How the team fares in those couple weeks is the only meaningful measure of its quality and the competence of those who built it. It’s not random.

After all, aren’t the storylines all the same things we’d talked about all season? No way CLE and PHI could rely on those shaky bullpens. And HOU and MIL were stuck counting on guys like Hader and Williams to shut down games, recipe for disaster. The LAD pitching would obviously outduel SDP when it counted, and the Tigers made the grave error of relying on someone like Skubal in a winner-take-all against Matthew Boyd. The Yankees are winning thanks to the production of the guys at the bottom of their lineup and by far the best closer in the playoffs.

As we all predicted, Bobby Witt, Manny Machado, Luis Arraez, Austin Wells, Josh Naylor are all among the very worst qualified hitters in the playoffs. And expectedly, the best hitters have been guys like Brayan Rocchio, Giancarlo Stanton, Mark Vientos, Jesse Winker, and Kyle Higashioka. And of course, it was basically a dead heat between Dylan Cease and Max Fried for worst SP in the playoffs — and an absolute runaway for Emmanuel Clase as the biggest one-man disaster in the entire playoffs.

What’s random?