Snell and Fried

[Orange]

How would you feel if we trusted the growth of the offense to the bevy of top prospects we have already introduced to the big leagues, didn't sign any hitters in FA, and Rubenstein opened the checkbook and paid for the two exemplary left handers on the free agent market in Snell and Fried? They might be attracted to the dimensions of the park and we can finally start building the roster to take advantage of the wall.

We'd get comp picks for Santa and Burnes, pick up all of the bullpen options, and we'd just play all of the kids (and we'd have room for them in Baltimore).

A rotation of Snell, Fried, Rodriguez, Eflin, and Kremer with Suarez, Povich, and McDermott on standby plus some non-zero chance of contribution from Bradish and Wells. The bullpen could use another top righty, but if Felix comes back close to 100% the pen is already a strength. The big bet would be on the young guys, and I'd argue that it already is.

[1fingerwillie]

Love it.

[Orange]

Realistically you would have to sign a backup catcher and a right handed outfielder in free agency, or else you'd be rolling with Blake Hunt and Jud Fabian in those roles. (No bueno.)

[Allan Bryant]

If O’s got outbidded for Burnes or he prefers another team regardless of what O’s offer him , then yes , Snell and Fried would be plan B . Oriole Park would be ideal for these two to pitch in 

[Sports Guy]

Fried worries me. 
 

I think the org I respect the most in MLb is Atlanta and they haven’t been too keen on offering him an extension despite them signing so many of their young players to deals.

That in and of itself is a red flag to me.

It’s not the only red flag but it’s one of them.

I think he ends up on the West Coast anyway.

The Os aren’t likely to sign 2 starters unless at least one of Povich or Kremer is traded.

[Say O!]

I’d much rather sign Burnes who has been guaranteed 190-200IP/yr whereas both Snell and Fried haven’t really touched that volume and have several seasons in the low 100s.  Color me a bit confused as to why OH dismisses Burnes dominant Sept (where he rediscovered cutter and K rate followed) and focuses on his decline in K rate but advocates for someone like Fried whose career average is <9K/9.

Sign Burnes, find platoon OF, trade Mounty (go with Mayo), pickup options on BP arms. Then plug holes if needed midseason via trade.  And if Burnes chooses elsewhere, I’d rather shorter term deal for KiKuchi than the years and $$$s that either Fried or Snell will demand. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Say O!

[bpilktree67]

38 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Fried worries me. 
 

I think the org I respect the most in MLb is Atlanta and they haven’t been too keen on offering him an extension despite them signing so many of their young players to deals.

That in and of itself is a red flag to me.

It’s not the only red flag but it’s one of them.

I think he ends up on the West Coast anyway.

The Os aren’t likely to sign 2 starters unless at least one of Povich or Kremer is traded.

Who is the last pitcher the Braves have locked up though.  They seem to be fine with locking up their young positional talent but they do not have that same willful idea to spend long term on pitching.  If they were continually extending younger pitchers and they just didn’t want to offer Fried one I would be more worried but if they never do it then it doesn’t pop out to me as a red flag.  

[UMDTerrapins]

I want two from a group of Sasaki, Snell, Bieber, Eovaldi....depending on the contracts. Not sold on Fried, but I wouldn't cry if we signed him either. 

[Baseball fandom]

2 hours ago, Orange said:

How would you feel if we trusted the growth of the offense to the bevy of top prospects we have already introduced to the big leagues, didn't sign any hitters in FA, and Rubenstein opened the checkbook and paid for the two exemplary left handers on the free agent market in Snell and Fried? They might be attracted to the dimensions of the park and we can finally start building the roster to take advantage of the wall.

We'd get comp picks for Santa and Burnes, pick up all of the bullpen options, and we'd just play all of the kids (and we'd have room for them in Baltimore).

A rotation of Snell, Fried, Rodriguez, Eflin, and Kremer with Suarez, Povich, and McDermott on standby plus some non-zero chance of contribution from Bradish and Wells. The bullpen could use another top righty, but if Felix comes back close to 100% the pen is already a strength. The big bet would be on the young guys, and I'd argue that it already is.

I'm on board in helping the offense too after what I saw the second half  but man that would be 2 really good pitchers to add.  Those 2 to go with Eflin and GrayRod and the others to battle for the 5th spot would be nice. 

[Fiver6565]

1 hour ago, bpilktree67 said:

Who is the last pitcher the Braves have locked up though.  They seem to be fine with locking up their young positional talent but they do not have that same willful idea to spend long term on pitching.  If they were continually extending younger pitchers and they just didn’t want to offer Fried one I would be more worried but if they never do it then it doesn’t pop out to me as a red flag.  

Strider

[Aristotelian]

I'd pretty pretty ecstatic with 1 of  the 2. 

[Orioles0615]

Pshhh we are gonna get Kyle Hendricks and some project and like it 

[Orange]

This is our first offseason with Uncle Ruby’s money. I think it’s burning a hole in his pocket. He wants to make a splash.

It is possible that he told Elias to come to him with whatever the best plan is and he’d be inclined to fund it. I mean, he said something to Elias, right?? What do you think he said to him about the payroll?

[Can_of_corn]

11 minutes ago, Orange said:

This is our first offseason with Uncle Ruby’s money. I think it’s burning a hole in his pocket. He wants to make a splash.

It is possible that he told Elias to come to him with whatever the best plan is and he’d be inclined to fund it. I mean, he said something to Elias, right?? What do you think he said to him about the payroll?

That's not the read I get from him but hey, hopefully you are the one that's right.

[OriolesMagic83]

I would love that scenario, although the O's would still need a backup catcher and some kind of 1B/RF RH hitter, imo.  Those are minor moves though.  I'm a big fan of signing Snell.  He's the top starter in my opinion.  Now can he stay healthy.  I guess that's why Elias is the GM and I'm a poster on OH.  Signing the wrong starter for $30 mill/yr can drastically affect the future of the O's as the O's just can't sign another $30 mill/yr starter next year like the Yankees/Dodgers.