MLB.com article with Angelos quotes

[TonySoprano]

Are you ever going to get it?

Actually, his point about what Angelos said MASN would do for the team's finances is valid.

In answer to your question, now that we have an RSN and we can move forward with it…that is going get us on a more even plane with Boston and New York, and that was the purpose.

Why do we suck so bad against Cleveland?

You can say the same thing thing about us and a number of teams.

[PrivateO]

Pretty sure we've had this "Angelos is screwing the team...yada yada yada" conversation before.....

[JTrea81]

Pretty sure we've had this "Angelos is screwing the team...yada yada yada" conversation before.....

True, but under Andy MacPhail these were supposed to stop.

I guess we can see now Angelos will never give Andy the resources he needs to compete because he wants to continue to cry poor (despite owning the broadcasting rights to two MLB teams and a RSN) so the financial picture will change.

It's like he wants the Orioles to be an example of the "have-nots."

It's sad really because I thought he wanted to win badly, and he can't do both...

[RShack]

True, but under Andy MacPhail these were supposed to stop.

I guess we can see now Angelos will never give Andy the resources he needs to compete because he wants to continue to cry poor (despite owning the broadcasting rights to two MLB teams and a RSN) so the financial picture will change.

It's like he wants the Orioles to be an example of the "have-nots."

You're not even sincere about having a discussion. You enjoy showing up and spewing crap, just to see who you can make mad. Not sure why you enjoy it, because it seems pretty twisty to me, but you obviously do. One thing I know for sure is that when you say things like "I'm not trying to get anybody to crack" you are lying through your teeth. You are very careful about not violating the rules, but that doesn't mean you're either sincere or honest. By now it's pretty clear that, except for your superficial act, when it comes to interacting with others in good faith, you are neither. You're a troll who found a loophole, and that's about all you are.

[Miller192]

You're not even sincere about having a discussion. You enjoy showing up and spewing crap, just to see who you can make mad. Not sure why you enjoy it, because it seems pretty twisty to me, but you obviously do. One thing I know for sure is that when you say things like "I'm not trying to get anybody to crack" you are lying through your teeth. You are very careful about not violating the rules, but that doesn't mean you're either sincere or honest. By now it's pretty clear that, except for your superficial act, when it comes to interacting with others in good faith, you are neither. You're a troll who found a loophole, and that's about all you are.

Can't you just put him on ignore?

[RShack]

Can't you just put him on ignore?

I could. But something's wrong when a signifccant number of people have to do that, and when it comes up in thread after thread after thread. How many times have people asked the question you asked, and to how many posters has it been asked? And what is the one common theme to every bit of it? A troll who found a loophole, that's what.

[Sports Guy]

I wish people would quit saying this. Look, he deserves all the blame you can muster for not fixing it until now. But the franchise was in the ground when he got it. Except for 1 fluke year, it had been for years and years...

This is arguably the stupidest point anyone brings up on here....I guess EBW deserves credit for 1996 and 1997 then?

There is absolutely no doubt that PA is the #1 reason this organization has been so bad for so long...To try and pin it on anyone else is both stupid and uneducated.

[Moose Milligan]

I could. But something's wrong when a signifccant number of people have to do that, and when it comes up in thread after thread after thread. How many times have people asked the question you asked, and to how many posters has it been asked? And what is the one common theme to every bit of it? A troll who found a loophole, that's what.

I just figured out how to block him and I'm thankful I did. Of course you can still tell where he leaves his impressions on threads but at least you don't have to read it...or reply to it.

You should do it, it's great.

[Moose Milligan]

There is absolutely no doubt that PA is the #1 reason this organization has been so bad for so long...To try and pin it on anyone else is both stupid and uneducated.

Yes, this is true...you can't blame it on anyone else but him.

I do think he's getting better. What really sucks is that if he were to sell the team today, his ownership would be viewed as a giant black mark on the face of this franchise.

[The Rick]

I could. But something's wrong when a signifccant number of people have to do that, and when it comes up in thread after thread after thread. How many times have people asked the question you asked, and to how many posters has it been asked? And what is the one common theme to every bit of it? A troll who found a loophole, that's what.

You're not exactly uncontroversial, so this is pretty ironic. It's very interesting, but not at all surprising that you can't stand him so much given that your views are the complete opposite.

I don't see a troll who found a loophole. While he annoys the crap out of everyone for his constant negativity, he doesn't bash other people and he's entitled to his opinion. If he's a glass half empty kind of guy, then so be it. You can't expect everyone to wear the orange colored glasses just because you do.

Myself and others have found it best to simply ignore him, and I do that to a lot of people, it's the best way to go. Again, this wreaks of irony in so many ways.

As for the topic at hand--it's pretty disappointing to hear that from PA. I hope his quote about the occasional exception was referring to his willingness to spend what it takes when the team's ready. That was my take away, but I could be completely wrong.

But my bottom line is this... He says that AM doesn't need his help and that he's doing a great job. That's huge! If PA focusing on just the money aspect takes him away from the baseball decisions it's a win win. I'd rather consistently sit close to where we are in payroll and have AM creatively get us to the promise land than spend over our heads and make mistakes while PA is pulling strings behind the curtain.

[Sports Guy]

You're not exactly uncontroversial, so this is pretty ironic. It's very interesting, but not at all surprising that you can't stand him so much given that your views are the complete opposite.

I don't see a troll who found a loophole. While he annoys the crap out of everyone for his constant negativity, he doesn't bash other people and he's entitled to his opinion. If he's a glass half empty kind of guy, then so be it. You can't expect everyone to wear the orange colored glasses just because you do.

Myself and others have found it best to simply ignore him, and I do that to a lot of people, it's the best way to go. Again, this wreaks of irony in so many ways.

As for the topic at hand--it's pretty disappointing to hear that from PA. I hope his quote about the occasional exception was referring to his willingness to spend what it takes when the team's ready. That was my take away, but I could be completely wrong.

But my bottom line is this... He says that AM doesn't need his help and that he's doing a great job. That's huge! If PA focusing on just the money aspect takes him away from the baseball decisions it's a win win. I'd rather consistently sit close to where we are in payroll and have AM creatively get us to the promise land than spend over our heads and make mistakes while PA is pulling strings behind the curtain.

Jtrea at least talks baseball...Give me that everyday of the week over the way Rshack normally posts.

[JimDH]

This is arguably the stupidest point anyone brings up on here....I guess EBW deserves credit for 1996 and 1997 then?

There is absolutely no doubt that PA is the #1 reason this organization has been so bad for so long...To try and pin it on anyone else is both stupid and uneducated.

I know you are but what am I?

[carolinaoriole]

Someone decipher this part for me:

What is PGA saying is the exception to the rule? The Rays? Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it appears he is saying that without spending a ton of money in the East, you can't consistently be competitive. At the same time, he is saying that we are not one of those teams that can spend a lot. So I guess we shouldn't expect to consistently be competitive?

Am I drawing the wrong conclusion here?

He is saying what I would be saying if I owned a baseball team in the major leagues.

Unless you are the yankees you want a salary structure to put your business in a better position to compete.

Baseball is a competition of the field as well as on.

If baseball had a salary structure the yankees would no longer have an advantage.

Anyone on this forum that runs a business will understand this basic business principle.

I think that he is doing a little politicking through the media.

If he could slow down the yankees ability to spend he will make the team more competitive.

[Sports Guy]

I love how PA always likes to cry about this but he has never invested internationally the way he should...he never spent on the draft until recently...He always had poor GMs and never had any direction.

What a cry baby.

[Moose Milligan]

I love how PA always likes to cry about this but he has never invested internationally the way he should...he never spent on the draft until recently...He always had poor GMs and never had any direction.

What a cry baby.

Not to mention crying about the Nats. Somewhat understandable but had he not screwed the franchise the way he did, the Nats wouldn't have made as big of an impact.