Camden_yardbird

5 call ups a season for a player and Elias is burning through some pretty quick here in the first two weeks. Will be interesting if that ever comes into play.

Its more about having actual major league talent.

How many ST ABs did everyone get, 40ish? I remember hearing from hitters in the past that it takes about 100 combined ABs in ST and the beginning of the season to get in the groove. Given a short ST guys are probably two weeks behind.

You think the team loses its best pitcher for a third of the season and everything is still fine? Then WTF are they doing. Every pitch matters, whether they were going to build his trade value and trade him (which is shot) or they wanted him to be the ace of a competitive rotation next year (for which he is now a huge question mark). Challenge yourself to be critical of the organization because I just see a lot of "everythings fine" while the organization fails to deliver a reasonable product, has failed to make appreciable strides toward competitiveness, and languishes in year 5 of a rebuild (yes 2018 counts as year 1 of the rebuild).

Its amazing what happens when you start to have some level of accountability for umpires.

Where is the sad face emoji?

God. This is why team building isn't a linear process. Why you have to take chances and why you can't just "flip a switch" and build a competitor. If you want to compete in year X then you need to start taking risks two years earlier. I suppose we can just add this as the 2022 excuse. 2019 - its the first year of the rebuild and there was no analytics department. 2020 - no minor league season, short major league season 2021 - our first round pick can't play in the minors 2022 - the labor dispute, we didn't get a rule 5 draft, Means got seriously injured.

After two years I am ready to welcome you all into the "Maybe Elias is not the guy" club. He as always has been able to build a farm system. But the other stuff, eh...

Unless...

To be fair thry have also pushed their high draft picks through the system a lot faster too. Thats true for the CWS and Royals as well.

The ultimate apologist response to today's outing. Content with a losing effort. What you are describing is not okay, and certainly not a $7 million for the year.

Im still waiting for a reason why the Orioles didnt put AR on the OD roster, IR him for two weeks, minors for a week, and still get the possibility of being eligible for draft picks down the road.

Truly the worst organization. Open my baseball news today: Pirates sign Ke'Bryan Hayes to 8/$70 extension. Orioles closing in on minor league deal for Matt Harvey.

They should put him on the OD roster, transfer him to the DL and be eligible for the draft pick. Work out an extension.

Akin is a super unlucky pitcher. The underlying stats are there for success.

To Rookie or not to Rookie. Looks like Seattle (Rodriguez), Detroit (Torkelson and Greene), and the Rays (Lowe) are going to see if they can grab some extra draft picks with the new CBA rules. How bad are the Orioles going to look when we watch these organizations reaping the benefits of the new rules?

Not if they trade John Means...to a desperate Mets team perhaps.

If this is true then Elias' player development is flawed. Effective player development needs to maximize player time at or approaching peak in the majors. At Elias' pace we may only see players who have reached their age 26 season and have them at or near peak for 3 or less seasons. Hall and Rodriguez might be the exceptions. The Rays routinely prepare and bring up players at 23-24 and get their best years for 5-6 years.

What really bothers me about this is, although these arbitration hearings are about the numbers, Mancini's numbers - his lack thereof in 2020, and probably his drop off in the second half last year - are about his cancer. The lack of comparative numbers to other players in the same place in their careers, thats about him missing time. Obviously in almost every other context in employer-employee arbitration this would be illegal, but baseball is a unique job where performance can be measure by multiple metrics. Something just doesn't sit right for me there.

Don't pretend like the Orioles weren't making "cost conscious" moves back when they were competing. I understand they were 10th in overall salary at one point, and 1st way back when, but regardless of the competiveness of the team we have all known for a long time that ownership has been a problem. We can't pretend like thats going to change all of a sudden. The most likely result is you enjoy your 5 years of AR and G-Rod on an okay to mediocre team, hope that they make smart moves in who else to retain and who to add and move on from there. Really just hope for new owners.

I don't know if this posted elsewhere, but it recently came out that former Oriole Jim Poole was diagnosed with ALS. Poole was the first player I ever got a signed ball from, and I will never forget that. The headliner at the signing was Devereaux but its Poole I remember most and somewhere I have a picture with him from that day. I hope the Orioles can reach out and do some work with Jim to try and bring continued focus on ALS. I remember how much the Ravens embraced OJ Brigance and I hope the Orioles take similar steps. https://thespun.com/more/mlb/former-mlb-pitcher-diagnosed-with-als-at-55

What i don't get is if you aren't going to add meaningful pieces then why retain Mancini, or even Means or Mullins. Its a pretty clear either/or. I guess maybe no one was interested in trades post lockout and the Orioles were thinking they could wait until the deadline. But watch, at the deadline 2-3 of these 1 year deal pitchers the Orioles aren't signing will be on the trade block.

That's a problem. The Orioles should have added someone who mattered this off season. You don't build a contender over night.

How does that differentiate from the scouting and development director in most organizations?

The 25 man roster is $23 million. Add in Davis and you still have a payroll at the bottom of the pile. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/