TommyPickles

I like the resigning of Severino. Plus it can't hurt to have a little more offensive production from the catcher spot, considering the bats of the people we'll be running out to play middle infield next year...

I feel you, but in the last full-length season, Yolmer Sanchez had a .606 OPS against righties in over 400 PAs...

I don't like this move. I think Alberto would have given a lot of stability to the middle infield picture, especially with Iglesias gone too. In his two years with Baltimore, Alberto had a .735 OPS, .322 OBP, a 3.4 WAR, and a 0.6 dWAR. Sanchez is a career .660 OPS hitter, who actually has a similar dWAR to Alberto over the past two seasons (1.0 dWAR). Not saying they're equal defensively, but it would have been nice to have both of them in the fold. I've been hoping for a long time that the O's were going to be around .500 in 2021, then shoot for a wild card spot by 2022... So far this offseason, it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

Man I forgot about Donnie Hart. He was one of my favorites in 2016-2017. His 2016 was ridiculous: 22 games, 1 ER, 0.49 ERA for the season

Yea, I agree. I hope for the best for Nunez. I hope he catches on somewhere else. But I'm not mad at this move. Excited to watch Mancini, Mountcastle, Santander, and Hays in 2021.

Gausman getting 19 million for one year and Bundy finishing ninth in the Cy Young vote... Things sure have gone well for these two since leaving Bmore.

Haha I was definitely one of the people wanting the O's to sign Chatwood back then. Although I was also in favor of signing Cobb, and he's been worth about the same for us so far... Chatwood- 3 years, 38 million, 1.2 rWAR Cobb- 3 years, 42 million, 1.8 rWAR

I know the O's are not going to be splashy spenders this offseason. I know we've been burned by free agent pitchers in the recent past (Ubaldo Jimenez, Alex Cobb, etc.). But take a look at this list. Who is one pitcher you think they should pursue and why? Starting Pitchers Brett Anderson (33) Chase Anderson (33) Chris Archer (32) Jake Arrieta (35) Homer Bailey (35) Trevor Bauer (30) Trevor Cahill (33) Tyler Chatwood (31) Anthony DeSclafani (31) Robbie Erlin (30) Mike Fiers (36) Mike Foltynewicz (29) Kevin Gausman (30) Zack Godley (31) Gio Gonzalez (35) Cole Hamels (37) J.A. Happ (38) Rich Hill (41) Corey Kluber (35) Mike Leake (33) Wade LeBlanc (36) Jon Lester (37) Tommy Milone (34) Mike Minor (33) Matt Moore (32) Charlie Morton (37) Jimmy Nelson (32) Ivan Nova (34) Jake Odorizzi (31) James Paxton (32) Martin Perez (30) Rick Porcello (32) Jose Quintana (32) Robbie Ray (29) Garrett Richards (33) Tyson Ross (34) Jeff Samardzija (36) Anibal Sanchez (37) Matt Shoemaker (34) Drew Smyly (32) Marcus Stroman (30) Masahiro Tanaka (32) Julio Teheran (30) Michael Wacha (29) Adam Wainwright (39) Taijuan Walker (28) Alex Wood (30) Jordan Zimmermann (35)

I really hope they keep Alberto too. I think between Iglesias, Alberto, Sanchez, Ruiz, Urias, Martin, and Wilkerson you can put together a real nice unit of 2B/SS/3B/UTI. You have the depth to survive a few injuries and space for some guys to get more seasoning in AAA. Plus, as people have mentioned, you may be able to trade Iglesias (or even Alberto) mid-season. I also like that they now have Sanchez controlled through 2022. I still think Elias is going to compete for a wild card spot in 2022.

Yea maybe it's just the games I've watched, but Stewart always seems to misplay a ball or take an awkward angle or something... I see he has a negative dWAR again this season, but it's not as bad as last year's. I don't know, I'm not super high on Stewart long term. Homers aside, he's got a .208 average and is averaging an error every nine games or so... I know its a small sample size, but I think Mullins could be a more useful longterm piece with his superior defensive skills, speed, and versatility. He could be the perfect 4th outfielder who gets into almost every game as a pinch runner, defensive replacement, situational hitter... (Also, as long as were talking small sample sizes, Stewart is 1 for his last 16 with 11 strikeouts.)

1. Santander 2. Mountcastle 3. Iglesias

I agree. Especially if they keep rosters at 28 next season which I suspect they will. Severino has the highest OPS (.921) of any catcher in baseball with at least 65 at bats. He leads all catchers in baseball with 37 hits. He would have probably started the All Star game this year for the AL.

The Yankees are in a free fall. After the Jays came back from being down 6-2 last night to beat them, they have now lost 14 of their last 19 games.

How about Nelson Cruz too? Dude is 40 years old and leads the AL with a 1.088 OPS and 11 homers.

It is pretty surprising that Severino has been the best hitting catcher in the AL...

@Frobby , do you see them both being elected to the Orioles Hall of Fame? I would hope so, but I don't know quite where the bar is for that.

Very true. The only real exception to this being Markakis' 2008 season, he KILLED it that year. .897 OPS, .306 AVG, 20 homers, 48 2Bs, 10 SB, 7.4 WAR.

Markakis is pulling ahead in one of the great Orioles debates of the last fifteen years: Who had the greater MLB career? Adam Jones or Nick Markakis? Career rWAR: -Markakis- 34.4 -Jones- 32.5 Top 3 Seasons by rWAR: -Markakis- 1. 7.4 (2008), 2. 4.2 (2007), 3. 2.9 (2009) -Jones- 1. 4.8 (2013), 2. 4.8 (2014), 3. 4.1 (2012) Total Games Played: -Markakis- 2129 -Jones- 1823 Career OPS: -Markakis- .783 -Jones- .771 Best Single Season OPS: -Markakis- .897 (2008) -Jones- .839 (2012) All Star Selections: -Jones- 5 (2009, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015) -Markakis- 1 (2018) Gold Gloves: -Jones- 4 -Markakis- 3 Silver Slugger: -Jones- 1 -Markakis- 1 I think you could still make an argument either way. Loved em both as players.

I get that. I'm excited to see Akin and more of the pitching prospects get their shot too. I'm not trying to argue against that. It just seems like Eschelman is kind of getting the short stick considering how he's performed. Its not like 31-year old Wojo (career 5.65 ERA) has a particularly high ceiling.

Why are people so down on Tom Eschelman? I thought he should have made the team out of Spring Training. He's got the lowest ERA (2.75) of anyone on the team who has gotten starts. He's younger (26) than Means, Wojo, Cobb, Milone, or Leblanc. He's letting up fewer home runs than just about anyone in this rotation. For god's sake, what does this kid need to do to get a shot at being this 2020 team's 5th starter?

I'd be super excited if the O's made the playoffs in 2020.

You seriously want to trade Mountcastle and Means?

I don't have any statcast data to back this up, but it seems like the ball is coming off his bat really hard. Happy he's off to such a strong start. It's gotta be good for his confidence.

I would be THRILLED if Austin Hays matches Adam Jones' career numbers. He's got a lot of catching up to do. Before he was 25, Adam Jones already had: -An All Star nod -A Gold Glove -50 HRs -32 SBs -Over 400 games played -Multiple seasons with an OPS+ over 100 (105, 108)

So you don't see any of these players on the team in 2022? Anthony Santander- 25 years old, not a free agent until 2025, leading the AL in RBIs while playing +defense. Renato Nunez- 26 years old, not a free agent until 2025, coming off a 31-homer season, currently has a 133 OPS+ Austin Hays- 25 years old, not a free agent until 2026, just getting his first real crack at the majors. Trey Mancini- 27 years old, not a free agent until 2023, coming off a 35 Homer/.899 OPS season. Arguably the team leader and most popular player in the organization.