Rosenthal talks about O's next GM: Nothing we don't already know...

[Birds of B'more]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/mlb-playoffs-seeding-races-news-and-notes-090511

Simply lends more credence to what most of us already suspect.

If, as expected, Andy MacPhail departs as president of baseball operations, owner Peter Angelos will prefer someone with whom he is familiar, or at the very least, someone who comes highly recommended by a person he trusts.

That is Angelos’ pattern — he knew MacPhail from their work together in the 2002 and ’06 labor negotiations. And, according to one source, Angelos is not especially well-versed with the current crop of GM candidates. When asked about former Diamondbacks GM Josh Byrnes and Rangers assistant GM Thad Levine, Angelos essentially replied, “Who?” the source said.

Manager Buck Showalter, who seems to have replaced MacPhail as Angelos’ most trusted confidante, could have a say in choosing the next GM. But it’s also possible that MacPhail will have significant input, considering his relationship with Angelos over the years.

[byrdz]

Manager Buck Showalter' date=' who seems to have replaced MacPhail as Angelos’ most trusted confidante, could have a say in choosing the next GM.[/quote']

As much as it pains me to say it, looks like JTrea was right about the Buck/PA relationship.

[ChaosLex]

We're doomed.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I don't want Showalter to get any input on the next general manager. In fact, I want the next general manager to have COMPLETE input on whether Showalter is the next manager of the Orioles. That's the way it works, and should work.

[Lucky Jim]

The relationship between a manager and a GM should be essentially bicameral, and fit our traditional notions of how bicameralism works.

[JTrea81]

I don't want Showalter to get any input on the next general manager. In fact, I want the next general manager to have COMPLETE input on whether Showalter is the next manager of the Orioles. That's the way it works, and should work.

It didn't work too badly when DJ picked Gillick...

[BaltimoreTerp]

It didn't work too badly when DJ picked Gillick...

Other than you rejecting reality and substituting your own, sure.

[El Gordo]

I think the idea of AM making a recommendation is interesting, and a new thought I haven't heard speculated upon before.

[sangar]

The relationship between a manager and a GM should be essentially bicameral, and fit our traditional notions of how bicameralism works.

Not to necessarily disagree, but isn't it the GM's job to translate ownership's instructions to the on-field product? I fully agree they should collaborate, but the final decision is the GM's alone and should remain so.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I think the idea of AM making a recommendation is interesting, and a new thought I haven't heard speculated upon before.

If he really is leaving of his own accord, it makes sense to give him some input.

[TonySoprano]

Other than you rejecting reality and substituting your own, sure.

If you can, without making ill thought-out smart-ass responses, what was wrong with having Pat Gillick in Baltimore?

[EddieMurrayfan]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/mlb-playoffs-seeding-races-news-and-notes-090511

Simply lends more credence to what most of us already suspect.

"Who?" A small word that makes a big statement

[sangar]

As much as it pains me to say it, looks like JTrea was right about the Buck/PA relationship.

More often than not he is right. His propensity to nag like an old woman is what makes people want to disagree.

[Lucky Jim]

Not to necessarily disagree, but isn't it the GM's job to translate ownership's instructions to the on-field product? I fully agree they should collaborate, but the final decision is the GM's alone and should remain so.

An excellent point - I meant mostly temparmentally/conceptually. I.e., the GM needs to be the "wiser," "cooler head" - thinking of long-term events...while a manager needs to be something closer to the fans, pushing for victories on a daily basis. The GM should clearly have the ability to reject what the manager wants.

[byrdz]

"Who?" A small word that makes a big statement

I think that wasn't PA's direct quote, based on Rosenthal's wording, still it's probably pretty close.