Tomase credits DD for rebuild of front office over 2012 on field production.

[Roll Tide]

Tomase also credits recently-appointed Orioles GM Dan Duquette with prioritizing the rebuild of the front office over the on-field product in 2012.

Cant he do both???Seriously I credit him for adding some new blood to the front office. But he could do more for the fans.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/baltimore_orioles/index.html

[Malike]

Cant he do both???Seriously I credit him for adding some new blood to the front office. But he could do more for the fans.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/baltimore_orioles/index.html

He is doing more for the fans by doing things the right way.

[waroriole]

He is doing more for the fans by doing things the right way.

But our 1B doesn't make $20M a year.

Rabble rabble rabble rabble

[Roll Tide]

He is doing more for the fans by doing things the right way.

I dont disagree ...But he should be rebuilding the player personnel ...Dealing Jones, Hardy, Reynolds, Guthrie and anyone else who has good value.

[waroriole]

I dont disagree ...But he should be rebuilding the player personnel ...Dealing Jones, Hardy, Reynolds, Guthrie and anyone else who has good value.

So he should just do it now, even if he's not getting what he wants for them, or hasn't made his decision about who to trade? He should do this because Johnny needs to see something happen NOW?

[MikeAD]

I dont disagree ...But he should be rebuilding the player personnel ...Dealing Jones, Hardy, Reynolds, Guthrie and anyone else who has good value.

Hopefully he will get there. In a lot of ways overhauling the rest is even more impressive. It might take him a bit to turn the tide fully but there is a greater chance we will have better talent evaluators and developers when we do trade those guys.

Hes trying to drag us into the 20th century, get us to drive a Geo Metro rather than a horesless carriage.

[JTrea81]

He is doing more for the fans by doing things the right way.

No reason he can't do both. I doubt that we've blown the budget on Lee Thomas and Fred Ferreira.

There's plenty of players to acquire and plenty of time to do it.

He's just got to do it.

[jamalshw]

I dont disagree ...But he should be rebuilding the player personnel ...Dealing Jones, Hardy, Reynolds, Guthrie and anyone else who has good value.

I agree. I want DD to make a choice and carry that to the MLB team.

[Roll Tide]

So he should just do it now, even if he's not getting what he wants for them, or hasn't made his decision about who to trade? He should do this because Johnny needs to see something happen NOW?

No ....The Orioles need to get off the fence. Either spend the money necessary (You Know Rabble Rabble:rolleyes:) or rebuild the friggin team. The Orioles are not going to win with Jones here because he's not staying past his contract unless the Orioles give him a stupid deal. Hardy & Guthrie's value will never be higher.

[oriole]

So he should just do it now, even if he's not getting what he wants for them, or hasn't made his decision about who to trade? He should do this because Johnny needs to see something happen NOW?

With the team we have now we are almost a definite last place finish in the AL East next year. What is the point to keeping Jones, Hardy, Guthrie, or even Wieters for that matter if we are already penciled in as a last place team. May as well blow it up for some great talent to come in around the same time as Machado and Bundy.

[waroriole]

No ....The Orioles need to get off the fence. Either spend the money necessary (You Know Rabble Rabble:rolleyes:) or rebuild the friggin team. The Orioles are not going to win with Jones here because he's not staying past his contract unless the Orioles give him a stupid deal. Hardy & Guthrie's value will never be higher.

I'll give DD a little bit longer than 2 months to decide how he wants to proceed. Of course, he could already have decided to trade people, and just hasn't got what he wants yet. Or, any number of other reasons for not doing it right now.

In addition, Hardy's not getting traded. He signed because of stability, and it would be really poor business to just trade him away now, as he was apparently given some assurances that he won't be moved.

[waroriole]

With the team we have now we are almost a definite last place finish in the AL East next year. What is the point to keeping Jones, Hardy, Guthrie, or even Wieters for that matter if we are already penciled in as a last place team. May as well blow it up for some great talent to come in around the same time as Machado and Bundy.

Plenty of reasons. Maybe he thinks the value will go up. Maybe he thinks teams will be more interested when the FA market clears. Maybe he thinks Wieters signs an extension, and will be a part of the next contender.

Just a side note, it would be incredibly stupid to trade Wieters now, as his value figures to significantly improve if his hitting continues like it was at the end of last year.

[Roll Tide]

I'll give DD a little bit longer than 2 months to decide how he wants to proceed. Of course, he could already have decided to trade people, and just hasn't got what he wants yet. Or, any number of other reasons for not doing it right now.

In addition, Hardy's not getting traded. He signed because of stability, and it would be really poor business to just trade him away now, as he was apparently given some assurances that he won't be moved.

Thats doesnt make it the right move. If 2012 really doesnt matter there are plenty of good glove/no bat SS's out there. They could bring back Izturis. The Orioles told you they werent rebuilding when they said their core players were untouchable. We must believe Roch when he says the Orioles arent giving $20M foe Fielder ....But we dismiss it when he says the core is untochable.

[SammyBirdland]

I know we've had 14 losing seasons in a row, but it's been two months already. Why isn't the team fixed yet? If we don't have a World Series ring by next month, then DD has failed.

[Roll Tide]

Plenty of reasons. Maybe he thinks the value will go up. Maybe he thinks teams will be more interested when the FA market clears. Maybe he thinks Wieters signs an extension, and will be a part of the next contender.

Just a side note, it would be incredibly stupid to trade Wieters now, as his value figures to significantly improve if his hitting continues like it was at the end of last year.

Wieters should be the only offensive player they are hesitant to trade. If they are offered the house for him than they should consider doing it.