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Wieters is extending. Might not be this winter, but he is extending.
I wouldn't say it if it was going to happen.

The plan is to extend him, and he wants to. Now what I don't know is what Boras has planned for his client, Matt.

Is this one of those what the meaning of "is" is exercises?

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I wouldn't say it if it was going to happen.

The plan is to extend him, and he wants to. Now what I don't know is what Boras has planned for his client, Matt.

Is this one of those what the meaning of "is" is exercises?

Exactly. Could you be a little less confusing? Don't you come out with stuff you think IS going to happen?

If you wouldn't say it if was going to happen does this mean you would say it if it was only a possibility? What would be the point of that? Then you couldn't talk about your "source" and if it happened you couldn't really take credit for it at all.

Your source isn't Deep Throat is it?

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Exactly. Could you be a little less confusing? Don't you come out with stuff you think IS going to happen?

If you wouldn't say it if was going to happen does this mean you would say it if it was only a possibility? What would be the point of that? Then you couldn't talk about your "source" and if it happened you couldn't really take credit for it at all.

Your source isn't Deep Throat is it?

As you all know, the Orioles made a pitch to Matt this past year talks stalled and they got nowhere.

According to my source, Matt is staying. He loves Buck, Buck loves him, his wife and him love Baltimore and are raising their son. Moving now wouldn't be their first choice.

Matt will be with the Orioles for a few years. I was told in the range of 5 is what the Orioles offered Matt and Boras with.

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I wouldn't say it if it was going to happen.

The plan is to extend him, and he wants to. Now what I don't know is what Boras has planned for his client, Matt.

Boras works for Matt. If he really wants to stay, then he'll insist that Boras works out a deal (see Jered Weaver). My guess is he's willing to be led along by Boras. The O's were still kicking tires in September.
The Orioles’ executive vice president of baseball operations met with Scott Boras this week, and there were preliminary discussions about contract extensions for Chris Davis and Matt Wieters, two of his clients.

“That’s a little early for that, but you know, we have made clear our intention to keep that core group together, and we’ll try and do that in the offseason,” Duquette said. “It was just an informal meeting. We are turning our attention to having a good team next year.”

source - CSN Baltimore
Orioles executive vice president of baseball operations Dan Duquette said he had some preliminary discussions with Boras, but would not go into specifics.

“I talked to Scott when he was in town, obviously. … It was just an informal meeting,” Duquette said. “We are turning our attention to having a good team next year.”

Wieters and Davis are eligible for arbitration for two more years and would not hit free agency until after the 2015 season. The organization would like them to remain with the club for years, and Duquette said one of his priorities is locking up the club’s “core players.” He said he had not yet engaged in any serious conversations about any of his players’ contracts.

“That’s a little early for that, but you know, we have made clear our intention to keep that core group together,” Duquette said. “And we’ll try and do that in the offseason.”

source - Connolly, Baltimore Sun
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Boras works for Matt. If he really wants to stay, then he'll insist that Boras works out a deal (see Jered Weaver). My guess is he's willing to be led along by Boras. The O's were still kicking tires in September.

source - CSN Baltimore

source - Connolly, Baltimore Sun

Ryan Madson just fired Scott. Maybe players with think of his circumstances before they blindly follow Boras off a cliff.

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I think Hardy is a great fit for our team.

Solid defense, good power, low OBP, I admit he fits right in. :D

I don't dislike Hardy, I would just prefer to move Machado over and trade Hardy for other pieces.

It is a good thing that I think he has value.

You don't see me suggesting they trade Nick.

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The Orioles simply can't afford him. He should be traded now, but the alternative of one year deals until he goes FA while searching for a good defensive catcher to replace him is acceptable. No way he should be extended. I suspect his defense will be just average in a couple of years.

Money should be spent on Davis, Machado, and starting pitching. A catch and throw guy with a .290 OBP is not in the budget.

I think the real question is whether Wieters is going to be a .290 OBP guy. He had a career .328 OBP coming into 2013. So, was it (1) just a fluky bad year that can happen to anybody, (2) the result of a decline already starting at age 27, perhaps brought on by being used so often by Buck, or (3) the result of the increasing use of shifts? Or, some kind of combination of the above?

At the end of the day, I don't believe Wieters is going to have such a poor OBP going forward. I think he mostly just had a bad year, like Hardy did in 2012. It happens -- players aren't metronomes. But I don't really know, of course.

As to signing Wieters long term, it depends how long and at what price.

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Exactly. Could you be a little less confusing? Don't you come out with stuff you think IS going to happen?

If you wouldn't say it if was going to happen does this mean you would say it if it was only a possibility? What would be the point of that? Then you couldn't talk about your "source" and if it happened you couldn't really take credit for it at all.

Your source isn't Deep Throat is it?

Ah, nice to see the traditional "Inside Source Witch Hunt" is still going on.

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As for Wieters, shop him. Make it as public as you want.

Maybe it will light a fire under his worthless behind and he will start being productive.

Maybe some dumb team will actually give up some valuable pieces for an auto out that's really good at working with a 4.20 ERA pitching staff.

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What witch hunt? His answer, which I had quoted by another poster sounded confusing and like he was then changing. Thanks for fighting the good fight though. :rolleyes:

You can't be cool around here until you call out a guy sharing info he heard. If you don't like what he says, just ignore it. I personally like the inside info.

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