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Chris Davis did not know the Orioles had Offered an Extension?


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The reason is Texas gave him away because he was a failed prospect. Or failing. There is no way Texas would have signed him to anything close to that on the basis of a year an a half of great success. I don't mean to be obstinate. I just know that Stottle and I are right. Davis need two more great years to reach the stratosphere. Boras' mouthpiece Heyman is lobbing for Votto money now.

I dont believe its fair to say Crush was a failed prospect. Texas needed pitching help, and they had a log jam ahead of Crush at first.

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I don't see Davis getting a 10 year contract like Votto. Votto contract was from ages 30-39. The last few years are probably not as productive as the earlier years. I could see Davis signing a 8 year contract at 28 that was from ages 28-35.

Evidently Boras think he should have a Votto contract now.

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I dont believe its fair to say Crush was a failed prospect. Texas needed pitching help, and they had a log jam ahead of Crush at first.

I think with the labrum tear, they were not all in on him any longer. Let's not say failed. Let's say like Brian Matusz.

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First of all, my opinion changes a little now that El Gordo points out that I was a year off on Davis' age. I'd probably do the 7/$115 mm deal. But when you talk about what Davis "potential[ly]" can get as a free agent, I have to stop you. You can't say what Davis potentially will get as a free agent without making assumptions about what Davis will do the next two seasons. What are your assumptions? I've already told you mine -- that Davis is more likely to be an .850ish OPS guy than a .900ish OPS guy. Do you agree with that, or not? If you agree, do you think a 1B with an .850ish OPS is worth $20 mm/yr?

Mark Teixeira has an .894 career OPS, and it was .923 when he signed his deal with the Yankees.

Joey Votto has a .960 career OPS, .958 when he signed his deal.

Prince Fielder has a .916 career OPS, .929 when he signed his deal.

Adrian Gonzalez has an .869 career OPS, .875 when he signed his deal.

Chris Davis has an .840 career OPS right now. Now, you can say he never got full-time opportunities until joining the Orioles, but the fact is that Teixeira, Votto, Fielder and Gonzalez had been stars for many years before they signed their deals. They didn't have just one great season.

As I said earlier, 40 HR simply doesn't tell me enough. What is his BA and OBP? Adam Dunn has never come close to making $20 mm in a year, despite hitting 40 HR six times.

I tend to agree, however, the above examples are from what appears to be a different era of insanity - before this winter. This new (added TV rights) era includes giving Jacob Ellsbury 20+M would be the relative example now. Based on that, whether CD is worth 20+% of the O's salary limit is (very) debatable, but I can't say that "someone" (hint: MFYs) wouldn't give him 20M+

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I dont believe its fair to say Crush was a failed prospect. Texas needed pitching help, and they had a log jam ahead of Crush at first.

You are right. They made Andy give them 2 million towards Koji to include Davis. So they thought he had some value.

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The reason is Texas gave him away because he was a failed prospect. Or failing. There is no way Texas would have signed him to anything close to that on the basis of a year an a half of great success. I don't mean to be obstinate. I just know that Stottle and I are right. Davis need two more great years to reach the stratosphere. Boras' mouthpiece Heyman is lobbing for Votto money now.

Davis would have gotten 7/140 if he was a FA last October.

I think the O's should offer him 8/147 that covers him two arbitration years and 6 years of his FA. That is age 28-35. Agree with it. Don't agree with it. If the O's offer it they have a decent chance of signing him. I don't think they will get him for less. He will be very hard to replace if they let him walk. I can see trading him but the O's certainly don't sound like they are ready to do that at this point.

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I tend to agree, however, the above examples are from what appears to be a different era of insanity - before this winter. This new (added TV rights) era includes giving Jacob Ellsbury 20+M would be the relative example now. Based on that, whether CD is worth 20+% of the O's salary limit is (very) debatable, but I can't say that "someone" (hint: MFYs) wouldn't give him 20M+
Not today they wouldn't. Not today. He is a first baseman with a one and a half year track record.
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Davis would have gotten 7/140 if he was a FA last October.

I think the O's should offer him 8/147 that covers him two arbitration years and 6 years of his FA. That is age 28-35. Agree with it. Don't agree with it. If the O's offer it they have a decent chance of signing him. I don't think they will get him for less. He will be very hard to replace if they let him walk. I can see trading him but the O's certainly don't sound like they are ready to do that at this point.

He is not established at the 20 million a year mark. He may establish that. He has two years to be Babe Ruth and get even more. But we do not know that yet. It is speculation.

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Davis would have gotten 7/140 if he was a FA last October.

I think the O's should offer him 8/147 that covers him two arbitration years and 6 years of his FA. That is age 28-35. Agree with it. Don't agree with it. If the O's offer it they have a decent chance of signing him. I don't think they will get him for less. He will be very hard to replace if they let him walk. I can see trading him but the O's certainly don't sound like they are ready to do that at this point.

Do you know that they did not? What do you think their offer was?

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Not today they wouldn't. Not today. He is a first baseman with a one and a half year track record.

We'll agree to disagree to a certain extent.. maybe I shouldn't have used the MFYs, but nothing surprises me right now. IMO to say no one would give him that is debatable.

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We'll agree to disagree to a certain extent.. maybe I shouldn't have used the MFYs, but nothing surprises me right now. IMO to say no one would give him that is debatable.

I really feel strongly that on the open market no team would give Chris Davis 20 for 8 years. That is a heck of a commitment. But we will agree to disagree.

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