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Long story but through the sports organization I run, he really helped me actually-software related.

I am not saying he is a saint or anything just reminding people this is an actual human being we are talking about:)

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MFY fans are human beings now? What is this world coming to?

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Long story but through the sports organization I run, he really helped me actually-software related.

I am not saying he is a saint or anything just reminding people this is an actual human being we are talking about:)

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But you still have no proof that he is a good person morally.

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But you still have no proof that he is a good person morally.

Well, he was a real creep and a bully to the the 12 year-olds that was was counseling at baseball camp in 2002. That was 5 and-a-half years after the fact.

That goes a long way with me. As far as I'm concerned, he's a swell guy ...... and so are his parents, who didn't have the cojones to admit how inappropriate that it was for them to accept box seats to the next game from the team owner as a "reward" for what he did out there in the outfield stands that night.

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From my standpoint, there are a couple of people that are even more nauseating than Maier himself ...... his parents.

I'm sure that most of you know that George Steinbrenner immediately arranged for Maier to have free box seat tickets to the very next game of that A.L.C.S. (Game Two). That day, the commentators on WFAN in New York got his father on the phone. To their credit, Mike and the Mad Dog both confronted him about accepting free box seat tickets to a playoff game for his kid as a "reward" for behavior that would otherwise get you ejected from the game. They asked him, "Mr. Maier, don't you think that it's wrong for your kid to be rewarded for interfering with a crucial play in a post-season game?" Mr. Maier responded by saying "Why can't my kid go to the game ?" Francesca and Russo didn't let his lame answer/excuse get him off the hook. They kept at him: "Mr. Maier, that isn't the point. Your kid can go to the game like everyone else, but why should he be rewarded with free box seat tickets for interfering with a play? Other parents' kids should be able to go to the game. They didn't do anything wrong. Why shouldn't they get free tickets? You're his parent. What exactly are you teaching your kid by accepting this "reward" for interfering with a play in a post-season game?" Mr. Maier simply repeated his nonsensical "Why can't my kid go to the game?"

Not only did Mr. Maier essentially condone what his kid did, he didn't even have the courage to come out and admit it when confronted on the air. To me, he was/is even more of a weasel than his kid.

In life, when you run into a butt-wipe, usually all you have to do is to look to his parents, and you quickly see why.

Well, yes.

NOT ALWAYS, but quite often, that turns out to be the case.

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So. It is really the fault of the family and community he grew up in and his actions since the fateful event are no more his fault than the action of an unsupervised minor? Nurture rather than nature? I think there is a thread about kids at the games somewhere. I'll have to look for it.

NO, you need to re-read what I posted as I never blamed his family, I am blaming the YANKEE FANS as a group for idolizing and glorifying this kid for what he did. Not his family, where did you pull that out of - far left field????

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NO, you need to re-read what I posted as I never blamed his family, I am blaming the YANKEE FANS as a group for idolizing and glorifying this kid for what he did. Not his family, where did you pull that out of - far left field????

Everyone is taking this way too seriously. He was a kid, interfered with a play and they got the call wrong. That is not Jeffrey Maier's fault and most O's fans would do the same thing.

Calling Jeff immoral, names, whatever is just plain silly.

I don't care if you believe me or not, but I am telling you Jeff is a nice guy and you guys have made him into some kinda scum-bag that he is not.

I have never met his parents, but I doubt they are scumbags either:) He just moved to the bay area actually.

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NO, you need to re-read what I posted as I never blamed his family, I am blaming the YANKEE FANS as a group for idolizing and glorifying this kid for what he did. Not his family, where did you pull that out of - far left field????

...also blame the entire parochial newyork media, from the Today Show to Letterman and back, who lionized the cheater, bringing him on air to kiss his cheating ass. you could see when it happened that he knew he had cheated and was giddy about it. scumbags every one from the child, his parents and everyone who treated his interference as an accomplishment.

Umpire Richie Garcia should have been fired for signing autographs and joking around with fans at Yanker Stadium prior to the next game. He didn't have the balls to make the right call in yanker stadium despite looking right at it! Another scumbag.

They need to string barbed wire around the top of the outfield fence to keep the animals contained.

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Enough already, geeze, I get it, this is a discussion board, but dang, it happened a long time ago, now time to move on.

I guess you missed today's game. It's alive and well along their outfield fence -- not just something that happened in the past. When will the next interference decide a game (and not be overcalled after replay)?

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...also blame the entire parochial newyork media, from the Today Show to Letterman and back, who lionized the cheater, bringing him on air to kiss his cheating ass. you could see when it happened that he knew he had cheated and was giddy about it.

I am so happy Letterman is retiring. He is not funny and I don't understand why people watch him.

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...also blame the entire parochial newyork media, from the Today Show to Letterman and back, who lionized the cheater, bringing him on air to kiss his cheating ass. you could see when it happened that he knew he had cheated and was giddy about it. scumbags every one from the child, his parents and everyone who treated his interference as an accomplishment.

Umpire Richie Garcia should have been fired for signing autographs and joking around with fans at Yanker Stadium prior to the next game. He didn't have the balls to make the right call in yanker stadium despite looking right at it! Another scumbag.

They need to string barbed wire around the top of the outfield fence to keep the animals contained.

Yeah, this is where I'm at. I couldn't care less about Maier himself, who could have been anyone, but the actions of the Yankees front office in giving him the VIP treatment were so unclassy. A bad call helped you win a game, fine. It happens, it's no different from a blown call on a play at the plate or a trapped ball ruled a catch or whatever else. But rubbing the opposition's nose in the fact that you benefitted from a blown call is the way a 6-year old playing Candy Land behaves. Frankly if I were a Yankees player I would have been mad that my front office was promoting the idea that some kid was a hero, not the players on the field.

I did not know that Garcia was joking around the next day with no embarrassment on his part. That's shocking, too.

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Yeah, this is where I'm at. I couldn't care less about Maier himself, who could have been anyone, but the actions of the Yankees front office in giving him the VIP treatment were so unclassy. A bad call helped you win a game, fine. It happens, it's no different from a blown call on a play at the plate or a trapped ball ruled a catch or whatever else. But rubbing the opposition's nose in the fact that you benefitted from a blown call is the way a 6-year old playing Candy Land behaves. Frankly if I were a Yankees player I would have been mad that my front office was promoting the idea that some kid was a hero, not the players on the field.

I did not know that Garcia was joking around the next day with no embarrassment on his part. That's shocking, too.

There is an awful lot of blame to go around as to how this incident was so mishandled (as I look back on it). Heck the Baseball Commissioner could and should have put some sort of fine or sanction on the Yankees for glorifying an acting of cheating the way they did. This would never have been allowed to stand in the NFL. That incident with Mike Tomlin was not ignored and it wasn't nearly as bad as this cheating act and the outcome that it likely resulted.

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