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I see a lot of posters on this board that are ready to hand first base to. Christian Walker and are really high on Alvarez....My question for everyone is, are these players that good potentially or are we excited about them because it's al we have. would a team with a better farm system of position players consider these 2 guys to be future starters?

I hope they are good for us, I just wanted everyone's opinion on my qu elation.

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I see a lot of posters on this board that are ready to hand first base to. Christian Walker and are really high on Alvarez....My question for everyone is, are these players that good potentially or are we excited about them because it's al we have. would a team with a better farm system of position players consider these 2 guys to be future starters?

I hope they are good for us, I just wanted everyone's opinion on my qu elation.

Personally, I think they are still a bit away, I would like to see them given the opportunity next ST to make the roster.

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I am not sold on Walker. He has some big holes in his swing. Also has a poor reputation defensively. For one thing, I think a lot of us see Steve Pearce as our next 1B. See the "Steve Pearce Extension" thread. We would not be talking about 3/$24M to Pearce if we were just going to hand 1B to Walker.

I think Alvarez will play a big role for us as early as 2016. If we hadn't gotten De Aza he would probably be playing right now. He can clearly hit and everyone in the organization is talking about his arm.

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Was Christian Walker even in this big league camp? I don't recall seeing him at all.

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So he was there for a bit. :)

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So he was there for a bit. :)

"There" as in bodily, apparently not in the baseball sense. Man, way not to turn any heads, Christian!

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I see a lot of posters on this board that are ready to hand first base to. Christian Walker and are really high on Alvarez....My question for everyone is, are these players that good potentially or are we excited about them because it's al we have. would a team with a better farm system of position players consider these 2 guys to be future starters?

I hope they are good for us, I just wanted everyone's opinion on my qu elation.

I do not see "a lot" of posters who hold these opinions. They're both in the "show me" stage so far as I'm concerned. I'm a little higher on Alvarez than Walker, because I think there's little doubt that Alvarez can be a good defender, whereas I don't think Walker has proven that yet. Both have more to prove with the bat. They both got their feet wet in AAA last year, but I want to see how they perform there in several hundred at bats.

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I think Alvarez is about 3 months at AAA away from a call to the majors. He will be a upgrade defensively in RF. He showed this spring that he can hit. One concern over the winter has been was he was disciplined enough at the plate. I think he overcame that in ST. He looked like an everyday player instead of a platoon guy. I think Alvarez is very closer to helping the O's this year.

Buck did determine that Alvarez is not a CF. He played there a lot last year but Buck says he fits in right field not in CF.

Walker needs a full season at AAA and then see what he is. Is he a first baseman or a DH? He still has a ways to go IMO.

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Not to be mean but I don't care what the other teams value. I feel like there's a lot of hype and stupid money around some players that never pan out. Especially some of the international players. So obviously the consensus is wrong lots of times. I just say that because I feel like the Orioles are doing something different to win in a tough division and every player they have fits into that plan. It's nice to have competent leadership!

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