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Parra to the Orioles (Done Deal)

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Who Would You Trade For?  

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  1. 1. Who Would You Trade For?

    • Gerardo Parra - 2 month rental
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    • Ben Revere
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    • Someone Else (Please name them in the comments)
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    • Nobody. Not much worth it on the market.
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Ohfan67 Hangout Grand Counsel

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Hitting .298/.335/poo. Career is .292/.326/poo. Averages 47 steals / 162 games at a very respectable CS rate. He would theoretically solve corner OF who would bat leadoff.

His numbers are a bit hollow. OPS+ < 100. But I guess he's at least fast. I think Para has a better chance of affecting the playoff race, but agree Revere probably more valuable In the long haul.

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I wrote Kenny Rosenthal about this, and included the link in the OP. Rosenthal circulates the rumor but adds nothing to it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a> talking to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash">#Brewers</a> about Parra. Earlier, <a href="https://twitter.com/LookoutLanding">@LookoutLanding</a> mentioned that RHP Zach Davies could go to MIL.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="

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His numbers are a bit hollow. OPS+ < 100. But I guess he's at least fast. I think Para has a better chance of affecting the playoff race, but agree Revere probably more valuable In the long haul.

Get both if the cost is reasonable. Revere is a possible long term solution, even though he's not a stellar player. If Parra can play August/September at a 140 OPS+ clip he'll make a huge difference; sadly, there's no guarantee of that. Personally, I'd rather trade for Adam Lind and keep Chris Davis in RF.

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The goal for some of us is to make the playoffs this year without hamstringing the organization for several years to come. I don't see too many people, including myself, who are enthusiastic about adding Parra. Revere is more justifiable and potentially more valuable long term. Everybody knows the Orioles are in a bind when it comes to tradable assets.

Im not advocating Parra, but why bother trading Zach for a player that is unlikely to make a difference in the playoff race? DD has said many times his goal is to make the playoffs this year. parra has a higher probability to have an effect IMO. not promoting the deal, just saying Parra is a better fit for DD's stated goal.

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But walk rate is important when attempting to project future success.

Sure, but consistent contact also means something:

2011 - .267

2012 - .294

2013 - .305

2014 - .306

2015 - .298

There are no wild swings in batting average there, and he's in his prime years. There's a high chance he'll continue to hit. Yeah it's rather empty -- but nobody is calling him an All Star either.

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Why do people want Ben Revere? The guy has a 4.4% career walk rate. He averages less than 30 walks per 162 games. He walked 13 times in 151 games last year. For a guy who relies heavily on his speed, his plate discipline is awful. Plus he has zero power. Revere is the textbook definition of a player who puts up empty numbers.

In that case he would fit right in with the free swinging O's.

O's leaders in walks, after Davis & Machado it's Snider and Joseph with 22 & 21.

Rever's 19 walks would be good for 5th on the team, not saying that's good, just pointing that out. Was quite surprised to see Joseph at 4th & somewhat the same for Snider at 3.

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Im not advocating Parra, but why bother trading Zach for a player that is unlikely to make a difference in the playoff race? DD has said many times his goal is to make the playoffs this year. parra has a higher probability to have an effect IMO. not promoting the deal, just saying Parra is a better fit for DD's stated goal.

What makes you think Parra can continue his current level of production? His career numbers are substantially lower and he's rocking a 371 BABIP. He's at 95 wRC+ for his career.

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Sure, but consistent contact also means something:

2011 - .267

2012 - .294

2013 - .305

2014 - .306

2015 - .298

There are no wild swings in batting average there, and he's in his prime years. There's a high chance he'll continue to hit. Yeah it's rather empty -- but nobody is calling him an All Star either.

I hear you. He's not a bad player and DD has shown an affinity for his type, including contract status. I'm just meh about it.

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In that case he would fit right in with the free swinging O's.

O's leaders in walks' date=' after Davis & Machado it's Snider and Joseph with 22 & 21.

Rever's 19 walks would be good for 5th on the team, not saying that's good, just pointing that out. Was quite surprised to see Joseph at 4th & somewhat the same for Snider at 3.[/quote']

If Buck keeps playing Nolan he'll finish third on the team.

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Revere's defense is suspect according to reports I read. Bad routes and a noodle arm.

He did lead the NL in hits last year. So there is that.

He is a poor CF, where he is less than a 1 win player. The two years he's played corner OF he's been worth 2.5 wins (and counting for this season).

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