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TonySoprano

By TonySoprano
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Who Would You Trade For?  

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  1. 1. Who Would You Trade For?

    • Gerardo Parra - 2 month rental
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    • Ben Revere
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    • Someone Else (Please name them in the comments)
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    • Nobody. Not much worth it on the market.
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24fps Hangout Grand Counsel

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Im not advocating Parra, but why bother trading Zach for a player that is unlikely to make a difference in the playoff race? DD has said many times his goal is to make the playoffs this year. parra has a higher probability to have an effect IMO. not promoting the deal, just saying Parra is a better fit for DD's stated goal.

Regardless of DD's stated goal, he doesn't have the luxury of only thinking of the playoff race given the FA situation he faces next year. Parra is a FA in 2016 and not enough of an upgrade over Snider et al to be much of a consideration IMO. Revere brings some skills currently missing on the O's and is controllable beyond 2015. He the better choice between the two IMO, which is different than saying he's the key to the post season in 2015.

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25 Nuggets Hangout Grand Counsel

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What makes you think Parra can continue his current level of production? His career numbers are substantially lower and he's rocking a 371 BABIP. He's at 95 wRC+ for his career.

Adam Lind really should be the target on the Brewers I think. Maybe they're not shopping him.

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What makes you think Parra can continue his current level of production? His career numbers are substantially lower and he's rocking a 371 BABIP. He's at 95 wRC+ for his career.

I'm not advocating Parra or Revere, but I do think there's a higher probability that Parra's offensive production would impact the Os the rest of the season. revere has never had an OPS+ > 100 in a season in his entire career. At least Parra has high production this year versus mediocre production. But again, I'm meh about both of these guys but do agree that Revere could have more cumulative value for Os and fits a DD type.

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If Buck keeps playing Nolan he'll finish third on the team.

Anyone but Snider, I watched some Korean baseball a few summers ago. They have baseball tonight as well (similar intro, music, sound effects etc, and no Kruk). Thought I was going to catch some MLB highlights but was fooled as it was all KBO. Snider might be able to play in the KBO, maybe.

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Sure, but consistent contact also means something:

2011 - .267

2012 - .294

2013 - .305

2014 - .306

2015 - .298

There are no wild swings in batting average there, and he's in his prime years. There's a high chance he'll continue to hit. Yeah it's rather empty -- but nobody is calling him an All Star either.

Turn 30 singles into doubles and what does his .700ish OPS do? He will likely steal a bit more than that but I'm subtracting the likely 10 or so CS from his hit total.

The first to third, first to home, second to home factor can't be ignored either.

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Hopefully, the Orioles will sign two starters in the off-season so Gonzo can be in the bullpen next year. The Orioles should actually use Gonzo the same way they used Gausman to start the year. Let him pitch out of the bullpen until one of the starters gets injured or falters and then you can insert him into the starting rotation. He should not be handed an automatic spot in the starting rotation next year.

Why?

He will likely be making close to $5M so there isn't a good reason to demote him.

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I prefer Revere to Parra as well.

Also, no, Davies does not have the ceiling to be like Miguel Gonzalez. Maybe more like Scott Feldman. But again, we're talking about absolute ceiling. I think that's worth the risk to upgrade the OF. Though I agree, I'd rather have Revere than Parra.

When Gonzalez was 22 years old he was a middle reliever in Double-A sporting a 3.88 ERA, a 6.4 K/9. Zach Davies is a starter who sports a 3.02 ERA and 7.6 K/9 in AAA at the same age. So tell me why Davies can't have a ceiling of Miguel Gonzalez again?

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When Gonzalez was 22 years old he was a middle reliever in Double-A sporting a 3.88 ERA, a 6.4 K/9. Zach Davies is a starter who sports a 3.02 ERA and 7.6 K/9 in AAA at the same age. So tell me why Davies can't have a ceiling of Miguel Gonzalez again?

Yeah, that remark was misguided. I really don't think Revere is a needle-mover for us and I'm not interested in losing Davies for him.

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