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Not what I was getting at. He's only been up 2 years. We give schoop a pass when it comes to the bat, but we don't give it to revere. That's dumb

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Revere is 28.

Schoop is 24.

I promise you I won't be giving Schoop a pass in four years.

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BohKnowsBmore Hangout Grand Counsel

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Not what I was getting at. He's only been up 2 years. We give schoop a pass when it comes to the bat, but we don't give it to revere. That's dumb

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http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/reverbe01.shtml

Revere is 28.

Schoop is 24.

I promise you I won't be giving Schoop a pass in four years.

Revere

2010 (22) - .412 OPS (30 PA)

2011 (23) - .619 OPS (481 PA)

2012 (24) - .675 OPS (553 PA)

2013 (25) - .691 OPS (315 PA)

2014 (26) - .686 OPS (626 PA)

2015 (27) - .719 OPS (634 PA)

Schoop

2013 (21) - .833 OPS (15 PA)

2014 (22) - .598 OPS (481 PA)

2015 (23) - .788 OPS (321 PA)

Look at their respective 2015s. Schoop had an OPS 60 points higher in his age-23 season vs. Revere's career high in his age-27 season. It was his second significant season vs. Revere's fifth. Using Schoop as some sort of comparable for what chances people are giving or not giving to Revere is misguided.

Funny enough, they actually have identical career OPS's of .677. The difference is that Schoop is trending upward headed into his age-24 season and has 817 career PA, while Revere has been on a plateau for the most part headed into his age-28 season and has 2,660 career PA (more than 3x that of Schoop).

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DrungoHazewood Hangout Grand Counsel

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Not what I was getting at. He's only been up 2 years. We give schoop a pass when it comes to the bat, but we don't give it to revere. That's dumb.

It's only dumb if you have some reason to totally discount four prime years of development. And the casual observation/scouting reports/stats that show Schoop with more power in his index finger than Revere does in his whole body. When Revere was Schoop's age he had an .042 (!) ISO, and 14 extra base hits in 482 PAs. Schoops' ISO at 23 was almost identical to Adam Jones' at 29.

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It's only dumb if you have some reason to totally discount four prime years of development. And the casual observation/scouting reports/stats that show Schoop with more power in his index finger than Revere does in his whole body. When Revere was Schoop's age he had an .042 (!) ISO, and 14 extra base hits in 482 PAs. Schoops' ISO at 23 was almost identical to Adam Jones' at 29.

Gives me even more reason to love schoop more than I do

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