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RF Fowler (S)

3B Machado ®

CF Jones ®

1B Davis (L)

DH Trumbo ®

C Wieters (S)

2B Schoop ®

LF Kim (L)

SS Hardy ®

Any objections? Reimold or Alvarez might replace Kim against lefties, otherwise I think this is what you will see on close to a daily basis when everyone is healthy. Since neither Fowler or Kim have played RF before I think you will see them rotate between right and left in Spring Training to see who can get more comfortable there. Also, if Kim really shows he can hit I think you might see him moved up to the two hole with everyone else moving down one. This is how we start the season IMO though.

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RF Fowler (S)

3B Machado ®

CF Jones ®

1B Davis (L)

DH Trumbo ®

C Wieters (S)

2B Schoop ®

LF Kim (L)

SS Hardy ®

Any objections? Reimold or Alvarez might replace Kim against lefties, otherwise I think this is what you will see on close to a daily basis when everyone is healthy. Since neither Fowler or Kim have played RF before I think you will see them rotate between right and left in Spring Training to see who can get more comfortable there. Also, if Kim really shows he can hit I think you might see him moved up to the two hole with everyone else moving down one. This is how we start the season IMO though.

This lineup has the potential to be the best from top to bottom since the move to Camden Yards. A few things have to break the right way for that to happen -- Kim has to be decent, Schoop must continue to progress, Hardy stays above the Mendoza line -- but the potential is there for a historically good franchise lineup.

The defense should remain elite as it has been since we brought Manny up in 2012. Hopefully AJ doesn't lose a step in CF but even if he does Fowler could help compensate for that. Besides, Kirby is an absolute chessmaster at outfield positioning.

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If Pedro Alvarez gets desperate and accepts a cheap 1 yr deal. Any thoughts on Fowler in LF, Trumbo in RF and Pedro at DH?

With Jones and Fowler's range, Trumbo wouldn't need to cover much ground. Being a former 3Bman, his arm should be decent.

I'm not wild about relying on Kim, since he's such an unknown.

Edit: sorry didn't see the other thread on this subject.

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If Pedro Alvarez gets desperate and accepts a cheap 1 yr deal. Any thoughts on Fowler in LF, Trumbo in RF and Pedro at DH?

With Jones and Fowler's range, Trumbo wouldn't need to cover much ground. Being a former 3Bman, his arm should be decent.

I'm not wild about relying on Kim, since he's such an unknown.

Alvarez is trying to build his value by putting up a monster year on a one year deal.

Why would he take a one year deal to be a platoon DH? That wouldn't build his value at all.

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Alvarez is trying to build his value by putting up a monster year on a one year deal.

Why would he take a one year deal to be a platoon DH? That wouldn't build his value at all.

He doesn't seem to have much of a market. He can't play in the NL.

If he comes here and can win the primary DH job, he should put up good numbers in Camden Yards. With Fowler added we can sacrifice D in the 3rd OF spot.

He would just have to hit well enough to force Trumbo to RF and Kim to the bench.

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He doesn't seem to have much of a market. He can't play in the NL.

If he comes here and can win the primary DH job, he should put up good numbers in Camden Yards. With Fowler added we can sacrifice D in the 3rd OF spot.

He would just have to hit well enough to force Trumbo to RF and Kim to the bench.

It's a great idea for the Orioles, I just don't see it as being a smart business decision for him.

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It's a great idea for the Orioles, I just don't see it as being a smart business decision for him.

There's alot of discussion in the other thread, but basically I think it's certainly a sub-optimal choice for him but it may be the best one he as left. Boras has likely decided to wait it out for an injury. But if not, BAL is the best AL team to offer him playing time. The only potential NL fits are SD, COL, and MIL, and all of them have pretty good reasons for why they may not want him at all.

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/151690-The-Case-for-P-Alvarez-Even-with-Fowler

As for the lineup in the OP, I think that's exactly the lineup I'd use and expect we would see. The handedness is well distributed. Schoop and Kim could certainly move up if they exceed expectations.

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I'm just not that wild about going all in on Kim. If he busts, I have zero interest in any Reimold/Rickards combo in LF/RF (wherever they don't play Fowler).

If Kim is the real deal, then worse case we have a decent power bat off the bench or a replacement if Trumbo gets hurt or doesn't pan out.

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This lineup has the potential to be the best from top to bottom since the move to Camden Yards. A few things have to break the right way for that to happen -- Kim has to be decent, Schoop must continue to progress, Hardy stays above the Mendoza line -- but the potential is there for a historically good franchise lineup.

The defense should remain elite as it has been since we brought Manny up in 2012. Hopefully AJ doesn't lose a step in CF but even if he does Fowler could help compensate for that. Besides, Kirby is an absolute chessmaster at outfield positioning.

2nd best maybe. The 1996 Orioles scored 949 runs. We scored 713 last year.

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RF Fowler (S)

3B Machado ®

CF Jones ®

1B Davis (L)

DH Trumbo ®

C Wieters (S)

2B Schoop ®

LF Kim (L)

SS Hardy ®

Any objections? Reimold or Alvarez might replace Kim against lefties, otherwise I think this is what you will see on close to a daily basis when everyone is healthy. Since neither Fowler or Kim have played RF before I think you will see them rotate between right and left in Spring Training to see who can get more comfortable there. Also, if Kim really shows he can hit I think you might see him moved up to the two hole with everyone else moving down one. This is how we start the season IMO though.

I think Schoop puts up better numbers than Wieters for sure and maybe Trumbo. Although I could see Trumbo liking the confines of OPACY. I feel pretty confident that Schoop hits at least 25 dingers this year. Depending on where he is in the lineup, I expect at least 80 rbi's.

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Alvarez is trying to build his value by putting up a monster year on a one year deal.

Why would he take a one year deal to be a platoon DH? That wouldn't build his value at all.

Yep, you get it. Let Alvarez go:) Not happening.

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Video link of MLB Network discussing our lineup: http://eutawstreetreport.com/eutaw-street-video/mlb-tonight-talks-fowler-deal/

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Thanks for the link. Ran out of rep though.

So they're saying:

RF Fowler (S)

3B Machado ®

1B Davis (L)

CF Jones ®

C Wieters (S)

DH Trumbo ®

LF Kim (L)

2B Schoop ®

SS Hardy ®

Personally I like the OP's lineup better. Not 100% sold on Wieters bringing the lumber like Trumbo can behind Davis.

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Thanks for the link. Ran out of rep though.

So they're saying:

RF Fowler (S)

3B Machado ®

1B Davis (L)

CF Jones ®

C Wieters (S)

DH Trumbo ®

LF Kim (L)

2B Schoop ®

SS Hardy ®

Personally I like the OP's lineup better. Not 100% sold on Wieters bringing the lumber like Trumbo can behind Davis.

Agreed. Wieters is a weaker hitter than Trumbo - there's a good chance he's worse than Schoop and Kim as well. I also like going back to back with right handed hitters Manny and Jones rather than Schoop and Hardy. Manny/Jones are much better equipped to handle RH relievers than Schoop/Hardy.

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