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Bad process to trade three young, cost controlled MLB players for one expensive, older one.

Good business process is almost never so one dimensional or inflexible as this. Having broad, general rules that don't take into account potential critical variables is almost the definition of bad business process.

Your statement takes into consideration age and cost and nothing else. A good process might take into consideration current and future performance, positional needs (are you trading the young players from a position of strength, is the old player filling an essential need), value allocations (how valuable is cash, for example - if you have a lot of it like the Yankees, cost is less relevant) and most importantly, it would express the desired goal in a measurable way.

Through your statement, the apparent goal is to have a team filled with young cheap players, but with no concern for results.

People need to understand that the goal of a major league franchise is ultimately revenue. So any good process must account for that. Glenn Davis was one of the top power hitters in baseball at the time we traded for him. Assuming he hadn't had a career ending nerve injury during his first spring training with the O's, he would have been a major draw at the gate. Davis was acquired in 91 and OPACY was slated to open in 92. It seems pretty clear to me that the Davis move was intended to support the move to the new ballpark and be one of the drivers behind raising attendance.

It's easy to look back at the Davis trade in retrospect and tear it apart, but from a business process standpoint, given the goals of the organization at that time, it must have made sense or they wouldn't have done it.

The same goes for DD today. The processes he uses for analyzing moves for the Orioles have achieved positive results (a winning team since 2012).

Just because you don't like the processes DD uses, doesn't mean they are bad.

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Good business process is almost never so one dimensional or inflexible as this. Having broad, general rules that don't take into account potential critical variables is almost the definition of bad business process.

Your statement takes into consideration age and cost and nothing else. A good process might take into consideration current and future performance, positional needs (are you trading the young players from a position of strength, is the old player filling an essential need), value allocations (how valuable is cash, for example - if you have a lot of it like the Yankees, cost is less relevant) and most importantly, it would express the desired goal in a measurable way.

Through your statement, the apparent goal is to have a team filled with young cheap players, but with no concern for results.

People need to understand that the goal of a major league franchise is ultimately revenue. So any good process must account for that. Glenn Davis was one of the top power hitters in baseball at the time we traded for him. Assuming he hadn't had a career ending nerve injury during his first spring training with the O's, he would have been a major draw at the gate. Davis was acquired in 91 and OPACY was slated to open in 92. It seems pretty clear to me that the Davis move was intended to support the move to the new ballpark and be one of the drivers behind raising attendance.

It's easy to look back at the Davis trade in retrospect and tear it apart, but from a business process standpoint, given the goals of the organization at that time, it must have made sense or they wouldn't have done it.

The same goes for DD today. The processes he uses for analyzing moves for the Orioles have achieved positive results (a winning team since 2012).

Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean they are bad.

No, it also took into consideration that the players in question had already survived the minor leagues and were major league players. That is a far cry from trading guys in AA.

We are also talking about a team that already had Randy Milligan, who posted a 155 OPS+ in 1990 (Davis was at 143 that year). You could make a case that Davis wasn't an improvement.

As for a draw? Why do you need a draw for a team with 1- Cal Jr and 2- a brand new stadium?

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But he's doing it for Boston :laughlol:

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/49849/dustin-pedroias-frustration-boils-over-as-pitching-lets-down-red-sox-again

Not feeling too terrible about the Miller trade right now. I think we made that trade with the hopes that we could keep Miller long term. I know the anti-DD crowd loves to bash him for his trades but this looks like it might turn out alright. If things keep going this way, we won't have to worry about facing Eduardo for years to come.

Trying to keep Miller long term or not (I don't think they were, because I think they knew he was going for big money), I think DD did a good job of selling high on ERod. Good for him. Right now, it's looking like a great trade, with very low probability that it'll end up being a bad trade for us in the long run.

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I still dislike the Miller trade and think EdRod has a bright future. But I'm glad he hasn't been able to help the Red Sox so far this year and hope he never helps them.

Well the little Gnome that plays 2nd base in Boston might disagree with you right now. :P

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A lot of people throwing dirt on Erod's grave. I would guess a lot of his current problems relate to the knee injury he's coming off of.

Maybe, but he's also been playing with his delivery in between starts. Sounds like the Sox have been meddling with it a bit to the detriment of his performance.

Something we've seen happen in our system a time or two.

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I didn't hate the trade, it shored up our bullpen that season when we were primed to make a run. Miller was lights out for us and I felt that we'd make a run at signing him.

I think it was more important keeping Miller out of Detroit, of course, he was a nice addition to the Oriole pen.

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Just now listening to the guys (one of them, anyway) on Boston sports radio criticize the the Miller-ERod trade: in effect, the RS knew what they had in Miller while ERod was an unknown commodity. :laughlol:

And E-Rod was pitching pretty poorly in Double A at the time. I am guessing if we wanted E-Rod back it wouldn't take much to get him. Not that I would want him back. We already have one Jiminez.

According to my fantasy baseball ranking there is one pitcher in the AL that is worse than E-Rod and Jiminez: Eric Surkamp.

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It's funny to me since that is one of the few trades Dan has done that I really liked.

Yes it was a high price to pay but at least it was for something of value.

I liked it at the time too because 1) we needed Miller for the pennant race at that time and 2) I thought Ed Rod was an over rated prospect. Rodriguez definitely made me question that assessment last year. He showed what he could be when things were clicking. Now he's having issues. Here's hoping he finds another division and succeeds.

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