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Tillmon's an ace IMHO....Next year looks pretty good with Tillmon, Gausman, Bundy and Ubaldo.....wish we didn't have Gallardo and Miley signed though.

Both Gallardo and Miley should have some type of program this winter to enable them to improve. Gallardo already knows that he has a weakened shoulder through years of use and he needs to keep it strengthen during the Off-Season to be effective in 2017. Miley seems a bit out of shape from years past (think Tillman 2015) and should also be placed on a program to improve his muscle tone, balance and finish. Both are under contract, so get them in shape and see where they fit in in 2017.

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Both Gallardo and Miley should have some type of program this winter to enable them to improve. Gallardo already knows that he has a weakened shoulder through years of use and he needs to keep it strengthen during the Off-Season to be effective in 2017. Miley seems a bit out of shape from years past (think Tillman 2015) and should also be placed on a program to improve his muscle tone, balance and finish. Both are under contract, so get them in shape and see where they fit in in 2017.

The problem is if they refuse what do you do?

Pay them off and let them become free agents?

O's don't have much leverage.

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Mechanics were kinda shaky early. He had a couple of curves where he stumbled off the mound and missed way out of the zone. Hopefully that was just rust. The results were good. Velocity seemed about right and command developed as the game went on. If he is healthy, we may still have a shot.

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The problem is if they refuse what do you do?

Pay them off and let them become free agents?

O's don't have much leverage.

Trade them while eating salary to make roster space on the Forty. That is all the Leverage you need. Neither has the time in MLB to refuse a trade or the contractual stipulation. They also know that they can be banished to a mop up roll as was Ubaldo for two months if under-performing. I do believe that they have enough pride in their respective games to accept any suggestions from the pitching coaches and Brady Anderson to adhere to a regimen that is set forth for the good of their careers and the for the good of their team mates.

Miley has shown that he takes pride in his game by taking ownership of the games he stunk the joint up and Gallarado has shown the ability to accept his frailties by re-doing his contract and rehabbing his shoulder earlier in the year. I see your point but I do think that both would do what was necessary to further their careers. I am not that positive about one Mike Wright.

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Both Gallardo and Miley should have some type of program this winter to enable them to improve. Gallardo already knows that he has a weakened shoulder through years of use and he needs to keep it strengthen during the Off-Season to be effective in 2017. Miley seems a bit out of shape from years past (think Tillman 2015) and should also be placed on a program to improve his muscle tone, balance and finish. Both are under contract, so get them in shape and see where they fit in in 2017.

Will be interesting to see how they play the rotation moving forward. Miley is pitching after being semi-skipped with the off day. I think they should do the same now with Gallardo.

They can go Miley-Bundy-Gausman vs BOS, then Ubaldo-Tillman-Miley vs TB. I would then give Gallardo a spot start 9/18 vs TB to give Bundy and extra day of rest.

I don't know what the answer is with these guys but I don't have much confidence in them this year and would like to minimize their use as much as possible.

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Trade them while eating salary to make roster space on the Forty. That is all the Leverage you need. Neither has the time in MLB to refuse a trade or the contractual stipulation. They also know that they can be banished to a mop up roll as was Ubaldo for two months if under-performing. I do believe that they have enough pride in their respective games to accept any suggestions from the pitching coaches and Brady Anderson to adhere to a regimen that is set forth for the good of their careers and the for the good of their team mates.

Miley has shown that he takes pride in his game by taking ownership of the games he stunk the joint up and Gallarado has shown the ability to accept his frailties by re-doing his contract and rehabbing his shoulder earlier in the year. I see your point but I do think that both would do what was necessary to further their careers. I am not that positive about one Mike Wright.

Dan can't trade 'em until he gets ahold of another one of those sweet competitive balance picks.

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If they thought it was important they would have already done the needed work.

Not as if Gallardo wasn't aware of how he pitched the second half of last year.

Not as if Miley doesn't know fitness is important.

Sometimes it takes a cold slap in the face to remind you. I think Gallardo already realizes he needs to keep working on his shoulder.

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Tillmon's an ace IMHO....Next year looks pretty good with Tillmon, Gausman, Bundy and Ubaldo.....wish we didn't have Gallardo and Miley signed though.

Careful penciling in Ubaldo. Lest we forget 2/3 of this season, 1/3 of last and most of 2014.

I think Gallardo could be solid next season if he actually treats this offseason correctly and actually trains and builds up strength.

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