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Why is this news?

He had an OPS+ of 54 in 2015, he's missed 45+ games the first two years of his DD granted extension. He was given the extension after hitting 9 HR's in 2014 after 3 years of 30, 25, and 22

He has been washed up for several years

The sad thing we have no other middle infielders in the system, although Janish and/or Andino might sadly be an improvement.

He's making 14 million this year which I think makes him the third highest paid SS in the majors. Good for him and his agent, a stupid extension by DD

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2 hours ago, Since'54 said:

A major league shortstop doesn't let a routine grounder bounce between the wickets and then air-mail a vital throw to the plate right after.  Not after looking like a bad little leaguer on to pop flyballs. I'm a Hardy fan but something is wrong.

The ball between his legs took a pretty bad hop.    He was in the right position, glove down and the ball hopped over his glove.     

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It's probably popular opinion around here that Hardy is still a better defender at SS than Flaherty, but by how much? Hardy has more than earned his spot for the rest of this season, but I think he should be sitting more often. Once a week at least, IMO. He's becoming hard to watch out there. He just looks so stiff, but he's still making a lot of plays. The missed grounder was surprising, even if it was a crazy hop, and the triple play was a gift. 

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3 minutes ago, Sanfran327 said:

It's probably popular opinion around here that Hardy is still a better defender at SS than Flaherty, but by how much? Hardy has more than earned his spot for the rest of this season, but I think he should be sitting more often. Once a week at least, IMO. 

Buck said he probably would have rested JJ yesterday, except that Schoop was unavailable so he needed Flaherty to sub at 2B.   Defensively, JJ has had some hiccups but I'd still take him over Flaherty any day.   

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1 minute ago, dan-O said:

Shrug. There's not much we can do about it. He's going to play until he gets hurt. At which point we'll see Andino or Janish. Mountcastle in September perhaps. 

Mountcastle??????

Andino doesn't do anything for me. :)

Do you really think so?

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1 minute ago, dan-O said:

Shrug. There's not much we can do about it. He's going to play until he gets hurt. At which point we'll see Andino or Janish. Mountcastle in September perhaps. 

Mountcastle?    Maybe in September 2018, at some other position than SS.

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Buck said he probably would have rested JJ yesterday, except that Schoop was unavailable so he needed Flaherty to sub at 2B.   Defensively, JJ has had some hiccups but I'd still take him over Flaherty any day.   

I think Ryan is better at third than SS.

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5 minutes ago, Sanfran327 said:

It's probably popular opinion around here that Hardy is still a better defender at SS than Flaherty, but by how much? Hardy has more than earned his spot for the rest of this season, but I think he should be sitting more often. Once a week at least, IMO. He's becoming hard to watch out there. He just looks so stiff, but he's still making a lot of plays. The missed grounder was surprising, even if it was a crazy hop, and the triple play was a gift. 

I agree with this wholeheartedly, and was just talking with my buddies at the game about it yesterday.  He clearly is losing effectiveness, but I do think he would be well served with more days off.  Once a week sounds right to me, but at least once every two weeks.  I don't think Flaherty is a better option there at this point, but I do think doing this would A) maximize our chances of getting the most out of JJ when he is in there, B) keep Flaherty a bit more engaged and maybe get some more productivity out of him, and, perhaps most importantly, C) keep JJ away from meeting that vesting option for 2018 ($14 mil guaranteed with 600 PAs this year.

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2 minutes ago, dan-O said:

Why, though? He's 20 and killing Frederick. He'll be bumped to AA this summer I think.

If he was a legit defensive SS, I'd give this a 10% chance of happening.   But he's not.    No reason to start his service time running and using up his options, when he's going to need to learn a new position in the minors at some point.    Also, one very good month in high A doesn't mean he'll get promoted that soon, or that if he is promoted, that he'll do well in AA.    For once, let's be patient with a guy.   

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