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I don't think Upton is really worth our time at this point. I still think they probably will want to try to find a way to get Pedro Alvarez on the 25-man roster, and we won't be able to stash Santander on the DL all season. Upton would basically be replacing Gentry, and I don't even think Gentry's role with the team is really particularly safe. He really needs to be a valuable role player all year if he wants to finish the season with us.

And since it appears as though Gentry is over the concussion problems that chipped away at his value last year, it's actually very likely that cutting Gentry for Upton is an overall downgrade. Gentry can do a couple things quite well, and is a somewhat ideal utility outfielder when things are going well for him, while Upton, despite the raw power and speed, isn't really a fundamentally good baseball player and not the sort of guy you probably want for that role if you've got better options. And if you want a stat to back this up, Gentry was a 3+ WAR player as recently as 2013(which he, incredibly, did in a utility role), while Upton hasn't been that valuable since 2011(or 2012 depending on where you check), even though he's started consistently during that time. Keeping him over Upton seems like a no-brainer.

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16 hours ago, weams said:

I would absolutely offer him a minor league deal with an opt out. If Adam approves. 

The Blue Jays didn't have much to lose with this move. They owe less than 4 million of what he's owed (the rest is on the Padres).

Upton hit under .200 for the Jays after the trade and had a poor spring.

 

if I'm the Os I'd pass as I think he's done.

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I see no need to pick up another reclamation project.

Some players that bounce around from team to team, are not invested mentally in the team they are playing for. The shine is gone, and it's just a paycheck. I remember when Kevin Millar was here, there were times the camera was on him, and I was thinking.. 'he wishes he was still in Boston'. Can I prove that? NOPE. It's just the way I was reading him at times. Of course there are players that are professional 100% of the time (Jeff Conine).. but I don't want anyone that's already struggled with other 'new' teams.

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1 hour ago, Drifter said:

I see no need to pick up another reclamation project.

Some players that bounce around from team to team, are not invested mentally in the team they are playing for. The shine is gone, and it's just a paycheck. I remember when Kevin Millar was here, there were times the camera was on him, and I was thinking.. 'he wishes he was still in Boston'. Can I prove that? NOPE. It's just the way I was reading him at times. Of course there are players that are professional 100% of the time (Jeff Conine).. but I don't want anyone that's already struggled with other 'new' teams.

Keith Moreland was the sour-puss poster child for that type of player when the Orioles traded for him in 1989.

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I don't hate the idea. He's got better numbers against LHP last year and for his career. The issue is, he's more similar to the high-K guys we already have. I think Gentry is a better bet to put the bat on the ball even if Upton can do more damage.

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I think the Orioles are probably full in the OF right now, not that I dont like Upton, I would be alot more interested last year. Upton is definitely the type of player Jones was asking about. He has all the tools just doesnt seem to try at times. Which might not make him a fit for the Orioles. 

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