How long before the O's convert Brad Brach to a starter?

[Luke-OH]

14 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Its a tired narrative that FA pitchers don't like to pitch in in pitchers parks and that FA pitchers do like to pitch for contenders?

It's a tired narrative that FAs don't (for the most part, of course there are exceptions) take the best deal.

[wildcard]

48 minutes ago, phillyOs119 said:

It's a tired narrative that FAs don't (for the most part, of course there are exceptions) take the best deal.

Their agent works the best deal with where that are willing to go.  We have seen the O's bid competitively for FA pitchers only to see them good else where for a nequal to or a little more then the O's bid.   It not an accident that the last bid is accepted from another team.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Their agent works the best deal with where that are willing to go.  We have seen the O's bid competitively for FA pitchers only to see them good else where for a nequal to or a little more then the O's bid.   It not an accident that the last bid is accepted from another team.

And we can't ignore the impact the physicals have.  You take and fail a physical with the O's and it hurts your market with other teams.

[wildcard]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

And we can't ignore the impact the physicals have.  You take and fail a physical with the O's and it hurts your market with other teams.

Yep.  The O's have many restrictions and to get Peter to agree takes a methodical approach.

[wildcard]

22 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

You can't possibly think any of that is pertinent now can you? Brach has been a reliever his entire professional career. There's a very real reason for that which I've already explained. I betcha he was a hell of a high school starter though!

No, I am not saying because Brach was a starter in college he will be a starter next season for the O's.   I posted this as a response to Redskin Rick saying Brach had never started, no even in college.

[wildcard]

Bump.

Brach is targeted to be the O's closer until Britton returns.   But the O's have Givens and O'Day in the pen.  Either may close.    It may be easier for Dan to find relievers than starters.   Do you think there is a chance the O's stretch out Brach in ST to see if you can fill a starter role?

[MDtransplant757]

Never. 

[Frobby]

This is a topic that drives me crazy.    I’ll believe that a Martian beams down to Earth and starts a game for the Orioles before I’ll believe that Brad Brach will do it.

[wildcard]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

This is a topic that drives me crazy.    I’ll believe that a Martian beams down to Earth and starts a game for the Orioles before I’ll believe that Brad Brach will do it.

O's are between a rock and a hard place.   They can't go more than 3 years for a pitcher and whoever they sign has to pass the medicals.   That eliminates most  pitchers.   No Arreita, Darvish, Lynn, Cobb, Cashner, Vargas, Tillman.   Dan is going to have to get creative to fill out the rotation.   

Dan may be able to find relievers easier than starters.   You can say never on  Brach to the rotation,  but who do you have that is better?

[interloper]

14 minutes ago, Frobby said:

This is a topic that drives me crazy.    I’ll believe that a Martian beams down to Earth and starts a game for the Orioles before I’ll believe that Brad Brach will do it.

Yeah, I mean... guys, he's the closer.

[Ruzious]

10 minutes ago, wildcard said:

O's are between a rock and a hard place.   They can't go more than 3 years for a pitcher and whoever they sign has to pass the medicals.   That eliminates most  pitchers.   No Arreita, Darvish, Lynn, Cobb, Cashner, Vargas, Tillman.   Dan is going to have to get creative to fill out the rotation.   

Dan may be able to find relievers easier than starters.   You can say never on  Brach to the rotation,  but who do you have that is better?

Never. 

Brach is the closer.  

At least at with Britton (who will also never start), he had experience as a starter.  

[Frobby]

6 minutes ago, wildcard said:

O's are between a rock and a hard place.   They can't go more than 3 years for a pitcher and whoever they sign has to pass the medicals.   That eliminates most  pitchers.   No Arreita, Darvish, Lynn, Cobb, Cashner, Vargas, Tillman.   Dan is going to have to get creative to fill out the rotation.   

Dan may be able to find relievers easier than starters.   You can say never on  Brach to the rotation,  but who do you have that is better?

I’m really annoyed about the propaganda now being issued about how the O’s can’t find pitchers due to medicals.   Just one excuse after another with these guys.     

But let me not get off-topic.     I’d rather give starts to any starting pitcher on our 40-man roster, and probably some minor leaguers not on the 40-man, then waste time giving them to Brad Brach.    He’s never been a starter, even in the minors, and trying to make him one would just weaken the bullpen.    He’s a free agent next year, so even if he was a passable starter it would do us no long term good.    The whole idea is, as they say, a non-starter.   (See what I did there?)

[Number5]

28 minutes ago, Frobby said:

This is a topic that drives me crazy.    I’ll believe that a Martian beams down to Earth and starts a game for the Orioles before I’ll believe that Brad Brach will do it.

[wildcard]

49 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’m really annoyed about the propaganda now being issued about how the O’s can’t find pitchers due to medicals.   Just one excuse after another with these guys.     

But let me not get off-topic.     I’d rather give starts to any starting pitcher on our 40-man roster, and probably some minor leaguers not on the 40-man, then waste time giving them to Brad Brach.    He’s never been a starter, even in the minors, and trying to make him one would just weaken the bullpen.    He’s a free agent next year, so even if he was a passable starter it would do us no long term good.    The whole idea is, as they say, a non-starter.   (See what I did there?)

So you would rather have Bundy, Gausman,, Castro, Cortes and Ynoa in the rotation?   How long do you think that would last?  Castro has not been a starter in the high minors much less the majors.  Cortes is a soft toss guy with decent numbers in the minors but no major league experience.   Not the kind of guy that should be expected to stay in the rotation all year.   Ynoa had a terrible year at AAA last year.  Had a good month in August in AAA.   Has done ok in 7 starts in the majors.   But no-one knows what to expect from him. He got lit up for a 6.23 ERA in 5 starts in the Dominican this off season. 

That is a very iffy rotation.   Brach probably has better stuff than the last three.  He probably can be extended if the O's want to keep him.  Getting creative means going out of your comfort zone.  I guess you are not there yet.

[OFFNY]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

 

This is a topic that drives me crazy. I’ll believe that a Martian beams down to Earth and starts a game for the Orioles before I’ll believe that Brad Brach will do it.

 

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