Dave Cameron’s five free agents to avoid

[Frobby]

Lance Lynn (no. 3) and Andrew Cashner (no. 5) are two of them.    Last year both Mark Trumbo and Matt Wieters were on his list.   https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2018-free-agent-landmines/

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Lance Lynn (no. 3) and Andrew Cashner (no. 5) are two of them.    Last year both Mark Trumbo and Matt Wieters were on his list.   https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2018-free-agent-landmines/

Betting if he did a list the year before Davis was on it.

[Frobby]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Betting if he did a list the year before Davis was on it.

Yes he did.   In fact, he was no. 1 on the list, and that was at a projected contract of 5/$100 mm.  https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2016-free-agent-landmines/

On the other hand, the year before  that, he had Nelson Cruz on the list.   

[pastorfan]

10 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yes he did.   In fact, he was no. 1 on the list, and that was at a projected contract of 5/$100 mm.  https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2016-free-agent-landmines/

On the other hand, the year before  that, he had Nelson Cruz on the list.   

Yeah, I think Dave estimated 5/130 mm for Davis, but Gallardo was on their also. You have to give this guy some credit, he has hit quite often. Please send this to DD!

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, pastorfan said:

Yeah, I think Dave estimated 5/130 mm for Davis, but Gallardo was on their also. You have to give this guy some credit, he has hit quite often. Please send this to DD!

On the other hand, they had Gallardo pegged at 4/$56 mm.   So at least the O’s avoided that.   I don’t know if Gallardo would have made that list for the contract the O’s gave him.    Fowler also was on the list, and had a career year.

[pastorfan]

Just now, Frobby said:

On the other hand, they had Gallardo pegged at 4/$56 mm.   So at least the O’s avoided that.   I don’t know if Gallardo would have made that list for the contract the O’s gave him.    Fowler also was on the list, and had a career year.

Good points all the way around, Frobby. I can only hope DD has the best offseason of his career!

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

On the other hand, they had Gallardo pegged at 4/$56 mm.   So at least the O’s avoided that.   I don’t know if Gallardo would have made that list for the contract the O’s gave him.    Fowler also was on the list, and had a career year.

They didn't know he would fail the physical.

[Frobby]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

They didn't know he would fail the physical.

And if it hadn’t been the Orioles, maybe he wouldn’t have.  

[Frobby]

On the other hand, here is Cameron’s list of FA bargains.   Among pitchers, he likes Tommy Hunter (no. 3) and Doug Fister (no. 5).    Otherwise he likes Carlos Santana (no. 1), Lorenzo Cain (no. 2) and Jarrod Dyson (no. 5).   https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2018-free-agent-bargains/

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

And if it hadn’t been the Orioles, maybe he wouldn’t have.  

If it hadn't been for the Orioles he might not have signed until the draft.

[Frobby]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

If it hadn't been for the Orioles he might not have signed until the draft.

Also worth mentioning that the O’s didn’t offer 4/$56 even before the physical.  I believe it was 3/$35 mm with a team option.   

[Beef Supreme]

9 minutes ago, Frobby said:

On the other hand, here is Cameron’s list of FA bargains.   Among pitchers, he likes Tommy Hunter (no. 3) and Doug Fister (no. 5).    Otherwise he likes Carlos Santana (no. 1), Lorenzo Cain (no. 2) and Jarrod Dyson (no. 5).   https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2018-free-agent-bargains/

As soon as I saw the title, I figured Lance Lynn would be on the list. He was the first one I thought of.

I'm in on Fister. I will let this fella preach the gospel: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/doug-fister-is-all-the-way-back-from-the-brink/

[Beef Supreme]

14 minutes ago, Frobby said:

On the other hand, here is Cameron’s list of FA bargains.   Among pitchers, he likes Tommy Hunter (no. 3) and Doug Fister (no. 5).    Otherwise he likes Carlos Santana (no. 1), Lorenzo Cain (no. 2) and Jarrod Dyson (no. 5).   https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2018-free-agent-bargains/

Cain is going to do what Cain has been doing. And do it consistently for at least three years, I predict. He's as sure bet as any of the FAs. It's just a matter of whether and what a team wants to pay and how many years they would be willing to commit. I actually was thinking a few months ago about the Orioles signing Cain would be a smart approach. But I talked myself out of that a while ago.

[wildcard]

Hurry Dave.   Keep driving those contract prices down.   Looks like a good strategy to me.    Let's hear what he has to say about Jimenez, Miley and Tillman in comparison.

[theobird]

9 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

Cain is going to do what Cain has been doing. And do it consistently for at least three years, I predict. He's as sure bet as any of the FAs. It's just a matter of whether and what a team wants to pay and how many years they would be willing to commit. I actually was thinking a few months ago about the Orioles signing Cain would be a smart approach. But I talked myself out of that a while ago.

I think bringing Hunter back is a good idea, and I love the idea of moving Jones to RF and having a straight platoon of Dyson and Hays in CF. Our OF defense would then be legit because Dyson is off the charts in CF and I think Jones would be exceptional in RF also.