Gausman, Brach to Pirates?

[NedFromYork]

I'd only take an org's 1, 2, 5, 10, and 20 for Gausman.

[sevastras]

17 minutes ago, NedFromYork said:

I'd only take an org's 1, 2, 5, 10, and 20 for Gausman.

That's a silly statement.  Cubs top prospect is #97 on the top 100, Pirates #2 prospect is #55 on top 100.

[Frobby]

43 minutes ago, joelala said:

Kinda like Gausman.  I think they carry very similar value.

I agree they’re similar.    Archer’s under contract for three more years including options, at very reasonable salaries, so I’d say he carries more value.    He’s been the slightly better pitcher, too, but not sure he will be going forward, since he’s two years older and his performance has deteriorated a bit the last 2-3 years.   

[sportsfan8703]

Good article from a Pirates site on Gausman,

https://www.bucsdugout.com/platform/amp/2018/7/30/17629274/pittsburgh-pirates-trade-rumors-gausman?utm_campaign=bucsdugout&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

[nate22]

I wonder if the Pirates would part with Glasnow too. He's had a rough year and a bit in the majors but his upside is sky high. He just might need a change of scenery. His issue is command but his stuff is elite.

[Moose Milligan]

I am not sure what we'd have to do to pry Hiura from the Brewers but I'd start with Gausman and Givens and keep adding until they say yes.  

[Satyr3206]

2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I am not sure what we'd have to do to pry Hiura from the Brewers but I'd start with Gausman and Givens and keep adding until they say yes.  

I'd rather do a deal with the Pirates for multiple prospects.

[Roll Tide]

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 Meanwhile, the Oriolesdon’t appear to have been enthused with trade offers for top pitchers Kevin Gausman and Dylan Bundy (or their other controllable players), Heyman indicates in a tweet.

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[Moose Milligan]

Just now, Satyr3206 said:

I'd rather do a deal with the Pirates for multiple prospects.

It depends on who those prospects are but Hiura is hard to beat.  I am not sure if he can play SS but it means we could also trade Schoop.  Or move Schoop to SS perhaps.  

[Satyr3206]

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

MLBTR

Then wait until the off season.

[Malike]

2 hours ago, Thato'sfan said:

So WAR is now a measure of a pitcher's stuff. lol. He has an elite slider and fastball combo. Has struggled in the AL east. Also, I never said he is currently an Ace, did I? His ERA is inflated by a high BABIP and he is one player whose value is not properly measured by WAR. FIP always around 3.5 and gets a ton of strikeouts. So yeah, I think he could blossom into an ace.

Daniel Cabrera had ace stuff. Archer has regressed the past 3 seasons but yeah, he can throw 95 and gets some strikeouts. Again, if he's an Ace, I'm Bill Gates.

[DirtyBird]

3 minutes ago, Satyr3206 said:

Then wait until the off season.

They aren’t trading anybody in the off-season.

[Number5]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Good article from a Pirates site on Gausman,

https://www.bucsdugout.com/platform/amp/2018/7/30/17629274/pittsburgh-pirates-trade-rumors-gausman?utm_campaign=bucsdugout&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, Malike said:

Daniel Cabrera had ace stuff. Archer has regressed the past 3 seasons but yeah, he can throw 95 and gets some strikeouts. Again, if he's an Ace, I'm Bill Gates.

He’s probably closer to an Ace than you are to Bill Gates, unless you have a lot more money than I realized. 

[Malike]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

He’s probably closer to an Ace than you are to Bill Gates, unless you have a lot more money than I realized. 

Archer isn't a top 30 pitcher in the league right now. Greg Maddux was worth more at 42 years old. People can sing what they want about Archer, but to mistake him for an Ace is almost criminal.