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He’s better than anybody we have because everybody we have is terrible, not because he is superb. But he has positional versatility and is competent at I think all the infield spots. We had Ryan Flaherty for six years doing the same thing.

If we find somebody better, we can always cut him loose again. Because we have first pick of the waivers, our 40 man roster back end is going to be changing tremendously between now and April, So I can’t understand why we didn’t grab him. The question also applies to a whole lot of people who are non-tendered on Friday.

We could almost assemble an entire roster of guys who are better than what we have from the non-tender list.

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4 minutes ago, wildcard said:

As a non tender he is available like any other free agent.  Arbitration no longer applies.

Is that correct? Or does the arbitration obligation apply even to a player who is non tendered?

Regardless, the difference between $1 million in arbitration in league minimum is only $300,000, which is to be found in the cushions of the couch at the front office.

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1 minute ago, Philip said:

He’s better than anybody we have because everybody we have is terrible, not because he is superb. But he has positional versatility and is competent at I think all the infield spots. We had Ryan Flaherty for six years doing the same thing.

If we find somebody better, we can always cut him loose again. Because we have first pick of the waivers, our 40 man roster back end is going to be changing tremendously between now and April, So I can’t understand why we didn’t grab him. The question also applies to a whole lot of people who are non-tendered on Friday.

We could almost assemble an entire roster of guys who are better than what we have from the non-tender list.

If he is a league minimum guy, I think the Orioles would look.  This is the Aldous Huxley Orioles. 

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27 minutes ago, PaulFolk said:

Torreyes is eligible for arbitration, and the Orioles probably aren't interested in paying him ~$1 million when they could find a similar utility man for cheap. Heck, the Cubs non-tendered Torreyes two days after they got him from the Yankees.

The Cubs only held onto him as insurance while negotiating with their non-tender eligible players. 

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8 minutes ago, Philip said:

He’s better than anybody we have because everybody we have is terrible, not because he is superb. But he has positional versatility and is competent at I think all the infield spots. We had Ryan Flaherty for six years doing the same thing.

If we find somebody better, we can always cut him loose again. Because we have first pick of the waivers, our 40 man roster back end is going to be changing tremendously between now and April, So I can’t understand why we didn’t grab him. The question also applies to a whole lot of people who are non-tendered on Friday.

We could almost assemble an entire roster of guys who are better than what we have from the non-tender list.

The non-tendered players are free agents. They are free to sign with any team. Not all of them will want to sign with the Orioles.

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13 minutes ago, Philip said:

Is that correct? Or does the arbitration obligation apply even to a player who is non tendered?

Regardless, the difference between $1 million in arbitration in league minimum is only $300,000, which is to be found in the cushions of the couch at the front office.

As a free agent he can be signed for any salary that he, his agent and a team can agree on.  The MLB minimum is 555K this year.  Next off season if he has accumulated enough service time he could be arbitration eligible.  Currently he has 2 years  139 days.  That would have made him a super 2 had he stayed under team control.   

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3 minutes ago, Philip said:

He’s better than anybody we have because everybody we have is terrible, not because he is superb. But he has positional versatility and is competent at I think all the infield spots. We had Ryan Flaherty for six years doing the same thing.

If we find somebody better, we can always cut him loose again. Because we have first pick of the waivers, our 40 man roster back end is going to be changing tremendously between now and April, So I can’t understand why we didn’t grab him. The question also applies to a whole lot of people who are non-tendered on Friday.

We could almost assemble an entire roster of guys who are better than what we have from the non-tender list.

The O's have 38 players on their roster, leaving them 2 slots for the Rule 5 draft. There was a date by which the number of available slots for the Rule 5 had to be set; meaning, any players the O's take off the roster now will not create an opening for a Rule 5 player. And, any player they add will reduce the number of available slots. So, if the O's want to be able to select 2 players in the Rule 5, they can't add anyone. If they are happy with adding only one player in the Rule 5, they can add one player now. If they add two players, they will not be able to draft anyone in the Rule 5.

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3 minutes ago, baltfan said:

I would rather suck than have guys like this.  Get upside young guys. If they don’t work out, then take your #1 pick. 

I'm pretty sure you are going to get what you want. The question is, for how long will they suck?

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7 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

The O's have 38 players on their roster, leaving them 2 slots for the Rule 5 draft. There was a date by which the number of available slots for the Rule 5 had to be set; meaning, any players the O's take off the roster now will not create an opening for a Rule 5 player. And, any player they add will reduce the number of available slots. So, if the O's want to be able to select 2 players in the Rule 5, they can't add anyone. If they are happy with adding only one player in the Rule 5, they can add one player now. If they add two players, they will not be able to draft anyone in the Rule 5.

I don't  think that is correct. I think you need to have a slot open to participate. I think it certainly can be created during the first week of December. 

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9 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

The O's have 38 players on their roster, leaving them 2 slots for the Rule 5 draft. There was a date by which the number of available slots for the Rule 5 had to be set; meaning, any players the O's take off the roster now will not create an opening for a Rule 5 player. And, any player they add will reduce the number of available slots. So, if the O's want to be able to select 2 players in the Rule 5, they can't add anyone. If they are happy with adding only one player in the Rule 5, they can add one player now. If they add two players, they will not be able to draft anyone in the Rule 5.

Is this accurate? I would think you could continue to add and subtract from your roster from now until the Rule 5 draft on Dec. 13. If the Orioles, say, released three players tomorrow, that would give them three additional openings for the Rule 5 draft. Not that they would make use them all, of course.

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