If you could have any O's HoFer added to this franchise right now...

[crowmst3k!]

Hard one.  
I went with Palmer because of need.  

Frank would have been a great addition, even if current day Orioles also got him at age 30. He was somewhere between dominant and very very good almost all of the 7 seasons he spent here. Also, a natural leader and someone who knew how to win.  

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, crowmst3k! said:

Hard one.  
I went with Palmer because of need.  

Frank would have been a great addition, even if current day Orioles also got him at age 30. He was somewhere between dominant and very very good almost all of the 7 seasons he spent here. Also, a natural leader and someone who knew how to win.  

Anyone want to figure out how much a 30 year old Frank Robinson would make a year in 2021 salary? 

Just rough it to 35M a year?

[Sports Guy]

Palmer doesn’t have the 60s and 70s defense behind him.  

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Palmer doesn’t have the 60s and 70s defense behind him.  

There is some evidence that Palmer actually did pitch to contact at times.  His K rate was supposedly higher in high leverage situations.  I think he would have been able to adapt his style of pitching to the current era.

[crowmst3k!]

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Palmer doesn’t have the 60s and 70s defense behind him.  

Great point. 

He's not in the poll, but what about Mussina instead of Palmer?

[TonySoprano]

Ripken -  offense and defense and plays every game.

[Aristotelian]

No votes for Joe Angel or Richie Bancells?

I would have to go with Cal. SP is a big need but so is SS, and Cal put up two 10 WAR seasons, something Palmer never did. 

[Sports Guy]

26 minutes ago, crowmst3k! said:

Great point. 

He's not in the poll, but what about Mussina instead of Palmer?

Thus why I said Mussina 

[Ruzious]

58 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Anyone want to figure out how much a 30 year old Frank Robinson would make a year in 2021 salary? 

Just rough it to 35M a year?

30 you say.  So, if he was drafted by the O's, he'd be in his 2nd major league season?  

[Frobby]

4 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

There is some evidence that Palmer actually did pitch to contact at times.  His K rate was supposedly higher in high leverage situations.  I think he would have been able to adapt his style of pitching to the current era.

He actually cited a fact about his K rate with runners on 3rd and less than two out on the air a few weeks back.   I think he said it was 30% higher than his regular K rate.   

[interloper]

Hard not to go with Jim here considering the state of the rotation. Although the booth would really take a hit.

[Frobby]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

He actually cited a fact about his K rate with runners on 3rd and less than two out on the air a few weeks back.   I think he said it was 30% higher than his regular K rate.   

So, I looked it up.   His K% was 13.7% for his career, 16.9% with a runner on 3B and less than two out.   Both low numbers by today’s standards, but in say, 1974, league average was 12.9% overall and 12.8% with runner on 3B and less than 2 out.   So 16.9% was very good at the time.  

Interestingly, today the league average is 23.5% overall and 21.1% with a runner on 3B and less than two out.   So in 1974 there was no league-wide gap between overall and runner on 3B less than two outs, whereas now there a >2% gap.   What this tells me is that batters today don’t care as much about striking out, but they do try to avoid it with a runner on 3B and  less than two out.   They nevertheless do strike out in that situation a lot more than in 1974.
 

[Ruzious]

And if you could add 1 Oriole HOFer that's not on the top 5 list above and not Mussina, who would it be?

[Frobby]

29 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

And if you could add 1 Oriole HOFer that's not on the top 5 list above and not Mussina, who would it be?

Bobby Grich.  71 rWAR and not in Cooperstown.

[MijiT88]

3 hours ago, Frobby said:

Bobby Grich.  71 rWAR and not in Cooperstown.

I remember my uncle telling me about bobby grich as a kid, and then meeting him as a teen. Followed by watching videos and studying his stats because I was born 2 years after he stopped playing. Man he is so underrated!