Meoli - two signs of progress to look for longer term

[Frobby]

John Meoli has a piece out today in which he points out that in addition to having five players in BA’s top 100, they have an infielder on the list for the first time since Manny and Schoop.   He cites the diversity of our five players on the list — C, OF, IF, P — as a good sign.

He then goes on to say that two other signs long-term will be:

1.   When an Elias-era pitcher is on the list.  That player probably isn’t in the organization yet.   
2.   When a player from our Latin American program is on the list.   That player might be in the organization, but hasn’t emerged yet.   Meoli points out that 30 of the top 100 are from Latin America, and we haven’t had one since Eduardo Rodriguez and Schoop.    

Both good points IMO.  https://jonmeoli.substack.com/p/orioles-prospect-list-lookahead

 

[Moose Milligan]

I don't know if that player isn't in our organization yet.  If Jean Pinto has a great season, he might sneak into the bottom half of the list.

Agreed on the second point.  Not sure if that player appears on the list next year but I will bet by 2023 that he does.

[Can_of_corn]

How about any player acquired outside the draft?

 

[Sports Guy]

I was hoping for more than this when I clicked on this thread.  (Meaning more from Meoli)

[Moose Milligan]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

I was hoping for more than this when I clicked on this thread.  (Meaning more from Meoli)

I admire the guy for trying to hack it on his own and not having access to the Orioles anymore.  If the Orioles were smart (they're not) they'd still give him access anyway since he appears to be a well-liked journalist.  

But I don't see how he's going to make it if the articles are like this.  I agree, not much there.  

[Frobby]

18 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I admire the guy for trying to hack it on his own and not having access to the Orioles anymore.  If the Orioles were smart (they're not) they'd still give him access anyway since he appears to be a well-liked journalist.  

But I don't see how he's going to make it if the articles are like this.  I agree, not much there.  

At the end of the day, this is now more of a hobby than a full time occupation for Meoli.   Not sure what his full time job is but he mentions it at the top of the article.    He also coaches the Loyola women’s hockey team.

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

I don't know if that player isn't in our organization yet.  If Jean Pinto has a great season, he might sneak into the bottom half of the list.

I like your optimistic take on Pinto.   Let’s just say his profile (5’11” without a top velocity fastball) isn’t what BA typically looks for in their top 100, regardless of good results.  But that’s not to say he doesn’t have a chance to be a good big league pitcher.  

[Can_of_corn]

32 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I admire the guy for trying to hack it on his own and not having access to the Orioles anymore.  If the Orioles were smart (they're not) they'd still give him access anyway since he appears to be a well-liked journalist.  

But I don't see how he's going to make it if the articles are like this.  I agree, not much there.  

Why not just keep spoon feeding the guys on their payroll?

Most fans aren't going to go looking for Meoli.

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Why not just keep spoon feeding the guys on their payroll?

Most fans aren't going to go looking for Meoli.

I doubt many teams grant media access to freelancers like Meoli.    And in any event, as I said, Meoli has another full time job.  Reading his first post at Substack, apparently he was tired of the travel and grind of being a beat reporter, especially with a young child at home.   

[interloper]

I canceled my Athletic subscription because I'm tired of the only voice being Connolly, whose opinions I don't usually jive with. I know that Meoli is moving onto different things, but if he were to be hired by the Athletic, I'd resubscribe in a second. I'd rather read his Orioles opinions/analysis without team access than any of the current beat guys who DO have access.

[Sports Guy]

22 minutes ago, interloper said:

I canceled my Athletic subscription because I'm tired of the only voice being Connolly, whose opinions I don't usually jive with. I know that Meoli is moving onto different things, but if he were to be hired by the Athletic, I'd resubscribe in a second. I'd rather read his Orioles opinions/analysis without team access than any of the current beat guys who DO have access.

Yea, you can’t be on The Athletic just for Dan’s coverage.  It’s not bad but to spend the money, you need more.

I like a lot of content on there, so it’s fine for me.

[justD]

13 hours ago, Frobby said:

 

He then goes on to say that two other signs long-term will be:

1.   When an Elias-era pitcher is on the list.  That player probably isn’t in the organization yet.   
 

 

I was ready to comment on this based on the tracking of Grayson’s progression through the system, and then realized that was info in Nathan Ruiz’s article today in the Sun.  
 

Surprises me to have gotten more from him than Meoli, at least today. 

[Frobby]

56 minutes ago, justD said:

I was ready to comment on this based on the tracking of Grayson’s progression through the system, and then realized that was info in Nathan Ruiz’s article today in the Sun.  
 

Surprises me to have gotten more from him than Meoli, at least today. 

Ruiz has been putting out good stuff this week.   Like his tweet that every player in the O’s top 10 got at least one BA vote for top 150.   That’s impressive.   

[sevastras]

On 1/21/2022 at 6:34 AM, Frobby said:

When a player from our Latin American program is on the list.   That player might be in the organization, but hasn’t emerged yet.   Meoli points out that 30 of the top 100 are from Latin America, and we haven’t had one since Eduardo Rodriguez and Schoop.  

Curaçao is a Dutch country in the Caribbean. It is not considered a Latin American country because its official language is not a romance language. Suriname is also not Latin American even though it is in South America.  (Suriname part is trivia not relevant to anything in the conversation). 

[Frobby]

4 hours ago, sevastras said:

Curaçao is a Dutch country in the Caribbean. It is not considered a Latin American country because its official language is not a romance language. Suriname is also not Latin American even though it is in South America.  (Suriname part is trivia not relevant to anything in the conversation). 

Yes, I know, and I assume Meoli knows too.  Just using shorthand.  Maybe Latin American and Caribbean would be more accurate, but it takes longer to say.   Plus, Schoop may be from Curaçao but his first stop in our system was in the DR, so he was part of our Latin American program in that sense.