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Elias is always changing the O's roster. From players that were on the 2023 payroll or the 40 man roster at some point there will be more changes to the 2024 roster.

FA that probably will not be back: (4) Gibson, Frazier, Flaherty, and Fuji 

Players that were on the 2023 payroll that have already been DFA'd: (4) Lopez, Givens, Gillaspie, Torrens

Players that will probably be traded/non tendered or released this off season:  (5) Urias, Stowers, McKenna, Norby and Zimmerman.

There are 13 players that Elias has or will probably move on from by 2024 OD. 

So nobody should say the O's stand pat because they don't.

In addition to the above players, in the next two years I expect that Elias will move on from Santander, Mullins, Hays, Hicks and  O'Hearn.    They will  probably be replaced by Kjerstad, Cowser,  Beavers, Ortiz, Holliday and Mayo.  McDermott will probably be added to the 40 man roster sometime in 2024.  I don't think any of these players are surplus because they will be  needed over the next two years.

I expect players that are traded will bring back pitching.  Mostly minor league pitching to boost the farm system but there maybe a major leaguer or two.

The only real needed additions in 2024 are a couple of relievers and I understand if fans want a starter.   Other than that I think team improvement will come from player improvement just like it did in 2023.

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

Holy straw man!   I haven’t seen a single person say the Orioles shouldn’t try to improve their team.  

Meanwhile, the Orioles improved by 32 games in 2022 and 17 games in 2023.   So it’s fair to assume Elias knows a thing or two about how to improve the team.  

He’s got a ton of options.   Sign free agents, trade veterans, trade prospects, let prospects come up and improve organically.  That’s all on the table and there are dozens if not hundreds of combinations of those four paths to improvement that he could employ.   

 

Actually, you are wrong. There are plenty of people here and in social media land that say, the team won 100 games and outside of bringing up the young players and adding a BP piece here and there, we should keep the team as is.

And you are questioning whether or not they should add to the rotation, which is a clear and obvious need. 
 

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44 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Elias is always changing the O's roster. From players that were on the 2023 payroll or the 40 man roster at some point there will be more changes to the 2024 roster.

FA that probably will not be back: (4) Gibson, Frazier, Flaherty, and Fuji 

Players that were on the 2023 payroll that have already been DFA'd: (4) Lopez, Givens, Gillaspie, Torrens

Players that will probably be traded/non tendered or released this off season:  (5) Urias, Stowers, McKenna, Norby and Zimmerman.

There are 13 players that Elias has or will probably move on from by 2024 OD. 

So nobody should say the O's stand pat because they don't.

In addition to the above players, in the next two years I expect that Elias will move on from Santander, Mullins, Hays, Hicks and  O'Hearn.    They will  probably be replaced by Kjerstad, Cowser,  Beavers, Ortiz, Holliday and Mayo.  McDermott will probably be added to the 40 man roster sometime in 2024.  I don't think any of these players are surplus because they will be  needed over the next two years.

I expect players that are traded will bring back pitching.  Mostly minor league pitching to boost the farm system but there maybe a major leaguer or two.

The only real needed additions in 2024 are a couple of relievers and I understand if fans want a starter.   Other than that I think team improvement will come from player improvement just like it did in 2023.

See above to prove my point 

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1 hour ago, wildcard said:

JA may say some things that are foolish but I think basically he has let Elias run the Baseball Operation without much interference.  He has spent of minor league coaches, analytic department, minor league facilities, minor league players in the draft and international.  That was Elias' plan when he was hired and JA has supported that.

These things cost no money in the grand scheme of things. Of course he supports that.

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26 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

These things cost no money in the grand scheme of things. Of course he supports that.

That is basically how the O's got to 101 wins.  JA supported the things Elias wanted to do.   I don't see that changing considering the success they have had.

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35 minutes ago, wildcard said:

That is basically how the O's got to 101 wins.  JA supported the things Elias wanted to do.   I don't see that changing considering the success they have had.

Yes, doing things correctly on a foundational level is basically how all successful franchises operate. 
 

But you have to do more than that to get over the top.

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