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Hall, Wells, SP, RP?


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Hall, Wells, SP, RP?  

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  1. 1. Where would you like to see Hall and Wells on the 2024 pitching staff?

    • Both starters (not necessarily top 5)
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    • Both relievers (in any role)
      24
    • Hall starter, Wells reliever
      7
    • Hall reliever, Wells starter
      11
    • Use both as starters and relievers, as needed
      18


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