Elias and Hyde address the media today

[baltfan]

1 hour ago, forphase1 said:

Not really.   He hits HR, but that's about it.   He comes up small way too often for me to think we are really going to miss him.

Name anyone on this team that came up big late more than Santander. 

[Roll Tide]

7 hours ago, Bemorewins said:

I know you don’t believe in “clutch” or whatever it is named. But as smart as you appear to be, you have to know that it is a biological fact that people respond different in high stress/unusual stressful situations. Some people have the ability to stay calm and focused. And some people panic, become anxiety ridden, lose focus, and their muscles tense up/tighten.

I have no way of knowing whether that happened to any/many of our guys. But we can all agree that something drastically change for players team mid way through the season. And something uncharacteristically negative happened to many of our hitters for much of the second half. Some of these guys went from being first half all stars to much worse in such a short period of time.

I’ve played a lot of sports in my life. Obviously none at a professional level. I think what you are thinking of has more to do with confidence. When a player is locked in and confident his success rate goes up considerably. It’s hard to determine how a guy is feeling. But, Gunnar for example didn’t look confident in his at bats. I think the same thing could be said for his defensive funk. Once he started making errors it kind of ballooned into a pretty ugly run.

Edited 4 hours ago by Roll Tide

[Just Regular]

Ravens fans question...when in the league calendar were Bisciotti's State of the Team things?

Rubenstein isn't going to say Boo for a decent length of time, and we are only halfway through his first year as control person learning how he'll conduct himself.

[Roll Tide]

8 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

Ravens fans question...when in the league calendar were Bisciotti's State of the Team things?

Rubenstein isn't going to say Boo for a decent length of time, and we are only halfway through his first year as control person learning how he'll conduct himself.

After they were eliminated from contention. I think he stopped participating in them a number of seasons ago. Probably around the time Ozzie handed off to DeCosta

[Ohfan67]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I've said before that I'm expecting payroll to hover around 20th.

But Elias didn't actually say anything.  I don't blame him and I'm not upset about it,  I'm just making an observation.

I’m hoping for 15th or so. 

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

I’m hoping for 15th or so. 

I'm expecting some ebb and flow depending on where the team is at.  I could see 15th in certain seasons.

[Ohfan67]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

I'm expecting some ebb and flow depending on where the team is at.  I could see 15th in certain seasons.

I think it could briefly go up to like 12th if they really go all in down the road. But I think the team would need to have continued success and draw more fans for a one or two year spending spike. Just my two cents. 

[24fps]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm expecting some ebb and flow depending on where the team is at.  I could see 15th in certain seasons.

We have no basis to assume anything about the new ownership group's willingness to spend or even what the team's break even point is.  Nor do we know what their threshold is for "creative" structuring of deals; they're hedge fund guys after all.  I'm not saying you're wrong, but my feeling is that we see 15th sooner rather than later.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, 24fps said:

We have no basis to assume anything about the new ownership group's willingness to spend or even what the team's break even point is.  Nor do we know what their threshold is for "creative" structuring of deals; they're hedge fund guys after all.  I'm not saying you're wrong, but my feeling is that we see 15th sooner rather than later.

Sure.  Honesty I'm just going off a couple comments he made.  We could end up anywhere.

[Flightless]

Very disappointed that he stuck up for Hyde. I expect that will be a very short leash for mealy-mouth Brandon.

[Allan Bryant]

2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Right, pretty confident.

That's not saying anything.

How many teams have their payroll go up in any given year?  Twenty-five?

If it doesn't go up what can we point to?  Him saying he was pretty confident?

We could point tenders , arbs , signings, etc . But again, he could be vague 

[Allan Bryant]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

There are certain things I will miss. I mean, this was a rule 5 guy who hadn’t played above A ball and found a way to be a really solid player. Tons of respect for his work ethic, the person he seems to be and the teammate he seems to be.

But it’s just time to move on. If he accepts the QO and stays for 2025, I won’t be terribly upset but that’s not going to happen.

You’re correct about where he came from , how his work ethic made to where he is today . Plus he is popular among his teammates, he is nice fellow. He’s been around and I’m thank him for his service to O’s .

Just as you said, it’s time for him to move on, I hope he finds new team and new deal . And we collect QO pick 

[Sydnor]

3 hours ago, forphase1 said:

Not really.   He hits HR, but that's about it.   He comes up small way too often for me to think we are really going to miss him.

He was third on the team in win probability added, but I am assuming your going based off what you “saw.”

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=np&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=3&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&team=2&rost=0&age=0&sortcol=2&sortdir=default&pagenum=1

[forphase1]

2 hours ago, baltfan said:

Name anyone on this team that came up big late more than Santander. 

No one did, including Santander.  And that's why we are sitting home now and had a bad 2nd half of the season.  None of the others though are a free agent expecting to get 20M a year or more.  That said, with RISP he was a .234 BA hitter with a .736 OPS.  That BA with RISP was 12th on the Os in 2024, while that OPS was 11th, though admittedly some of those above him were SSS guys like Stowers and Rivera.  That's not exactly someone that 'came up big'.  When he's up with RISP, or any other time frankly, I expect one of three things.  A home run, a strikeout or an easy out.  He's not going to do much else.  And we already have too many of those type hitters on the team, though none with his home run numbers obviously.  We really aren't going to miss his one dimensional bat as much as folks are acting like.  Give him the QO and wish him well.

[forphase1]

1 minute ago, Sydnor said:

He was third on the team in win probability added, but I am assuming your going based off what you “saw.”

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=np&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=3&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&team=2&rost=0&age=0&sortcol=2&sortdir=default&pagenum=1

Nope, see the above post.  He was 11th on the team in BA with RISP and 12 in OPS with RISP.  That isn't exactly a guy that's carrying a team when it matters or someone that's going to create a back hole by not being in the lineup in the future.