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4 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Still 2 more titles than the O's have combined to win since 1983.

And?  Is lack of funds why that is?  The Os had one of if not the highest payroll on those mid 90s playoff teams.

They spent plenty of money in the mid 2010s.

Mismanagement  is why they were a train wreck.

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I am sure the O's are looking at the next 5 years of their payroll and competitiveness.   Can't spend as much as the big boys but must spend enough to win the WS.  Here's my take what Elias is looking

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What would have been the point? As you say, it would have been a facade. We would have missed the chance to get Holliday just to finish 4th instead of of 5th. That's what we got from 98-2011. For the

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Agreed, I think people are going to be surprised when they realize Angelos is not the only one who doesn’t like to spend. 

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3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Yea..from a lineup optimization stand point, that is third best spot to bat your best players.

Genuine question... Why is the cleanup spot better than the 3rd spot in the lineup? If your leadoff and/or 2nd place hitters are on base, wouldn't the 3rd spot get more opportunities than cleanup?

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2 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

Genuine question... Why is the cleanup spot better than the 3rd spot in the lineup? If your leadoff and/or 2nd place hitters are on base, wouldn't the 3rd spot get more opportunities than cleanup?

I think it is because in the 1st inning - there is about a 40% chance the 3rd spot bats 2 outs, nobody on, but there is about an 80% chance it gets to cleanup with men on base.

After the 1st it is more random.

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12 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Arizona signed multiple bats and multiple pitchers in the offseason. They “spent money” coming off their WS appearance.

They spent it on pitchers who, if they had the same year in 2024 as they had in 2023 and they were available today, many would be clamoring for…and yet they got hurt and/or popped the bed.

The DBacks offense was elite but they missed the playoffs.

Sometimes spending money works. It helped the Royals. Sometimes it doesn’t. Either way, it’s not a guarantee of anything.

Talent, roster construction and a lot of luck is needed.

Spending money on real talent certainly increases your margin for error.

"Luck"

Man those teams that spend money sure are "lucky".  And the teams that don't spend are REALLY unlucky, to the tune of never winning anything, ever. 

 

World Series Winner
Team Total Rate 24 Payroll
Top 3 12/35 34.3 256
Top 5 14/35 40 242
Top 8 18/35 51.4 226
Top 10 21/35 60 207
Top 12 27/35 77.1 176
Top 15 29/35 82.9 144
Top 18 33/35 94.3 133
Top 20 34/35 97.1 123
Top 25 35/35 100 101
Top 30 35/35 100  
       
World Series Loser
Team Total Rate 24 Payroll
Top 3 6/35 17.1 256
Top 5 10/35 28.6 242
Top 8 14/35 40 226
Top 10 17/35 48.6 207
Top 12 20/35 57.1 176
Top 15 25/35 71.4 144
Top 18 25/35 71.4 133
Top 20 29/35 82.9 123
Top 25 32/35 91.4 101
Top 30 35/35 100  

 

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