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One big hitter and the team is closer. Two big hitters (1B & outfield), plus bullpen help (RYan would have been nice), and this team contends. That is about $27 million worth of talent. That is what winning takes for this franshise given how we are set up and the division that we play in.

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I have little doubt in my mind that if Vlad was in right and Jay was at first, that we would be a contender.

Imagine Vlad in right, Delgado at 1st and Jay as DH, with Javy traded for another pitcher for the pen.

Imagine....

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"The BJ's have a higher ceiling than us but to think we are worse than last year is foolish." - SPORTSGUY

You can't be serious! How can we be any better than last year with our current BP? But no sense in arguing. Let's just see if we are in first place in late May this year. I bet we aren't! We may be the same as last year, but the BJ's are much better than last year.

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"The BJ's have a higher ceiling than us but to think we are worse than last year is foolish." - SPORTSGUY

You can't be serious! How can we be any better than last year with our current BP? But no sense in arguing. Let's just see if we are in first place in late May this year. I bet we aren't! We may be the same as last year, but the BJ's are much better than last year.

Being in first in May of last year was quite obviously inconsequential at the end of the year. We went on a tear, cooled off, and didn't stop cooling off until we started hitting those 7-8 game losing streaks.

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You can't be serious! How can we be any better than last year with our current BP? But no sense in arguing. Let's just see if we are in first place in late May this year. I bet we aren't! We may be the same as last year, but the BJ's are much better than last year.[/quote

How can we be better tha last year with this bullpen? Look at last years bullpen! It actually got better, the starting pitching got better, the lineup is better, how is this team wrose than last year?!?!?

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"How can we be better tha last year with this bullpen? Look at last years bullpen! It actually got better, the starting pitching got better, the lineup is better, how is this team wrose than last year?!?!?"

Because we were fine last year until Javy got hurt and then the steroid stuff really tanked us. I just think that we were better last year. Chen and RLo certainly started better last year. Bedard was/is great in April. So how is our starting staff better now? And how is our BP better without Ryan?

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You could add two big hitters and this team still wouldn't beat out Boston & NY. Our rotation has maybe one starter who is better than average. And we don't know if he can make it through a whole season.

Exactly. Pitching wins games, guys, everyone knows this. I know having an offense thats on par with Boston and NY would be more fun, but it wouldn't necessarily make us win more games and get us to where we want to be.

Need a frontline starter and bullpen help.

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Because we were fine last year until Javy got hurt and then the steroid stuff really tanked us. I just think that we were better last year. Chen and RLo certainly started better last year. Bedard was/is great in April. So how is our starting staff better now? And how is our BP better without Ryan?

We havent missed Ryan at all this season, we replaced Kline with Hawkins and added Rleal. We have Benson instead of Ponson. You are right that Chen and Rodrigo arent the same as last season though.

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We havent missed Ryan at all this season, we replaced Kline with Hawkins and added Rleal. We have Benson instead of Ponson. You are right that Chen and Rodrigo arent the same as last season though.
How can you say we haven't missed BJ Ryan at all this season? I think Ryan as closer and Ray as a setup guy really would help solidify our bullpen.
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