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    • As usual, I’m not worried about our competitors at this stage of the season.  Just win a lot of games and put yourself in a good position, and then see where things stand as the trade deadline approaches.   The Yankees will have their ups and downs, and so will we.     In my mind, the first goal is to get to 18 games over .500.  That puts a team in position to win 90 games just by playing .500 ball the rest of the season, and 90 wins is a virtual lock to make the playoffs.   Then get greedy from there.       
    • The farm?  A top 25 prospect and someone who isn’t on many, if any, top 100 lists, for a young, elite, ML closer with 6 years of service time.  I can see the argument or trepidation but to act like it’s some crime is overreacting.
    • It’s just a reality check for the fawning that’s going on over Mason Miller who nobody even knew who he was 6 weeks ago. Now everyone is ready to hand over Mayo+ or Basallo+ for this dude.  Heck no, but that’s just my opinion. Hopefully Elias’ too. Everyone can have their own opinion so fawn away if you desire. 
    • Whenever you’re 100% sure of something (it seems like 100% of the time) I think there has to be another side to this.     Last June would anyone here have traded Felix Bautista for Josh Jung?   Jung was rated #26 prospect by Baseball America, similar to Mayo, proving himself in the ML as a viable 3B and ROY candidate.   Maybe some of you would but I bet most wouldn’t.   Why not?   Because Felix is/was special. Of course, Miller comes with risk but how high is the risk.  Tanaka had the slight tear, came back, and was never re-injured.  Is it just a matter of time before the tear in Bradish’s elbow tears again or is it healed?   Are Bradish and Miller ticking time bombs or are they the same risk as any other pitcher.  Before you say the answer is obvious, I bet it’s not. Any pitcher we get could get injured and Michael Kopech, for one, isn’t Mason Miller.   Do you want the best with some risk or do you want a cheap knock off with less risk? The same person arguing we can’t trade Mayo for Miller is the same one saying that Mayo 100% (it’s never 50%) will never play 3B for the Orioles.   As a 1B, which he’s not doing all that well so far, or a RF which, despite a great arm, don’t know if he’ll be better or worse than Kjerstad, or as a DH he simply loses value.   Not only that but we do have Kjerstad for RF and we do have Mountcastle/O’Hearn/Basallo at 1B.    So, how integral is Mayo to the future success of the Orioles.  Is he more integral than a lockdown closer with 6 years of service time, a 103 mph fastball, a knee buckling slider, and command of both pitches? Miller comes with risk but the upside for the team is tremendous.   Mayo hasn’t proven a thing in the majors, we don’t know where he’s going to play, plus we have other just as talented prospects who play all the positions he might play. You know what we don’t have?   A good feeling with a 2 run or 1 run lead after 8 innings.
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