If you were the GM, would you put Britton on the OD roster, or wait?

[mofome]

Because baseball players aren't stupid.

:scratchchinhmm:

[mweb]

Why have an extra year on the extension?

The best contract would buy out only one or two of his FA years.

You don't likely want him much past age 28.

A contract like the Marlins gave Johnson is ideal.

Umm, no one is talking about going further than that. At best, Boras would give one extra year on an extension, more likely 0 extra years. I'm just talking about having that one extra year that they gain by sending him down now and having more favorable salary terms due to that.

[JTrea81]

Umm, no one is talking about going further than that. At best, Boras would give one extra year on an extension, more likely 0 extra years. I'm just talking about having that one extra year that they gain by sending him down now and having more favorable salary terms due to that.

And more favorable salary terms for 2017 are worth more than the best chance to beat some of the toughest teams that we will face this season?

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Winning now should be more important because this year is a make or break year for this core of players.

You will have a different core in 2017 if Britton is even effective up to that point. But it's this core that the team has invested it's immediate future in.

If they fail, this whole rebuild from 2007 until 2011 will have been a failure.

And right now without Britton, all 4 rotation spots are shaky heading into Opening Day.

[Mitch Connor]

This is a message board. Im authoring my own book.

Is it titled "Baseball for Dummies"? :laughlol:

[mofome]

Who is taking over the #5 spot?

We have :

Tillman

Matusz

Guth

Berg

Duch

Arrieta

What do you mean, who is taking over the #5 spot? People reference April 21st all that time because they think that means they understand something that no one else does. We all get that date, but what is going to garner Britton a spot at that point? People reference over and over and over, 2 or 3 starts. Ok, so who is going down on the 21st? If Duch is healthy, whats the situation?

If tillman has an era around 4.60 is he going down? Nope.

What if Tillman is 2-0 with a 5.61 ERA? Sending him down then, after 2 starts?

[mofome]

Well certainly not if they send him down and tick him off again.

Not after telling him he had a chance to pitch himself into the rotation.

[mofome]

We all act like it's a forgone conclusion that he'll be up as soon as the deadline passes...

Not all of us. I have brought this up 5 times prior to you acting as if you brought it up.

Just those trying to pose as if its only 2-3 starts that we'll be missing britton for and those who discount plenty of other things.

[mofome]

I guess they must have a school for trolls. Same obnoxious style.

You were likely the valedictorian.

[mweb]

And more favorable salary terms for 2017 are worth more than the best chance to beat some of the toughest teams that we will face this season?

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Winning now should be more important because this year is a make or break year for this core of players.

You will have a different core in 2017 if Britton is even effective up to that point. But it's this core that the team has invested it's immediate future in.

If they fail, this whole rebuild from 2007 until 2011 will have been a failure.

And right now without Britton, all 4 rotation spots are shaky heading into Opening Day.

Better salary terms and more importantly the extra year itself!

We are talking about maybe a fraction of a win difference(so round up to a win) as people like Drungo have pointed out.

The rebuild working is not at all dependent on 2-4 extra starts from Britton and to suggest otherwise is completely absurd.

[mofome]

No for a pitcher it's 27 or slightly earlier based on the type of pitcher you are.

Fastball pitchers like Britton tend to peak a little earlier.

Look at Josh Beckett for example.

He looks done at 31 and had his best year at 27 and then dropped off quickly.

Fastball pitchers, sinkerball pitchers, pitchers that have yet to reach their potential..

Great pitchers adapt, grow, learn, stay ahead. Britton gets outs with movement, bastball pitchers, as you described, 'blow people away'. Thats not britton.

[mark_beckens]

http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110328&content_id=17158970&vkey=news_bal&c_id=bal

The Orioles can go with four starters until April 10 by using their scheduled off-days, and they will make do until April 21, which is when Britton could come up and not be allotted a full year of service time. By keeping Britton in the Minors for at least 20 days, he will remain under team control for another full year, until 2017. The decision isn't financial -- the O's have no intention of leaving Britton in the Minors long enough to delay his arbitration years -- but they do want to keep the 23-year-old lefty from entering free agency a year early.

[mofome]

This may be the most arrogant group of folks I've ever had the pleasure to post with.

:hearts:

[mark_beckens]

No for a pitcher it's 27 or slightly earlier based on the type of pitcher you are.

Fastball pitchers like Britton tend to peak a little earlier.

Look at Josh Beckett for example.

He looks done at 31 and had his best year at 27 and then dropped off quickly.

Fastball pitchers? Like Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens?

[JTrea81]

Fastball pitchers? Like Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens?

Exceptions to the rule. And let's not forget Clemens' career was likely "enhanced."

What you saw in his last years in Boston was probably the career path he was on before PEDs.

It stands to reason he started taking them in those years when he was hurt.

If you look at his stats though, his best years before the PED years were around age 27.

[mark_beckens]

Exceptions to the rule. And let's not forget Clemens' career was likely "enhanced."

What you saw in his last year in Boston was probably the career path he was on before PEDs.

Who's rule is this? Your's?