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What level starter are we looking at here?

Are talking a #1 starter on an ok team or are we talking an ace level guy that would be in the class of guy like Felix?

Reaches ceiling? #1 on first division team.

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Yeah, but hyperbole is common re: the draft. Kind of like how we seem to have a "once in a generation" talent every 2-4 years. :P

Stotle, can you do that thing where you assign 20-80 ratings to Bundy and do it for him right now and his ceiling?

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Yeah, but hyperbole is common re: the draft. Kind of like how we seem to have a "once in a generation" talent every 2-4 years. :P

Stotle, can you do that thing where you assign 20-80 ratings to Bundy and do it for him right now and his ceiling?

Current (Future)

Motion: 55 (60)

Fastball: 55/60 (65/70)

Curve: 45/50 (60)

Change: 40 (55/60)

Cutter: 50/55 (60/65)

Control: 45/50 (60)

Command: 40/45 (55/60)

Feel: 45/50 (60)

Overall Future Potential: 58/62 (front-end starter/#1 upside)

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Current (Future)

Motion: 55 (60)

Fastball: 55/60 (65/70)

Curve: 45/50 (60)

Change: 40 (55/60)

Cutter: 50/55 (60/65)

Control: 45/50 (60)

Command: 40/45 (55/60)

Feel: 45/50 (60)

Overall Future Potential: 58/62 (front-end starter/#1 upside)

Is 60 generally considered "plus"?

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He's reported to hang in the upper 90s on his fastball, while touching 100 from time to time. Are you giving him lower marks for his fastball because you didn't see him on that particular day, or is it not a fastball on the same quality as other people in the majors for reasons other than velocity? Or have players like Aroldis changed the definition of a 70-80 fastball?

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He's reported to hang in the upper 90s on his fastball, while touching 100 from time to time. Are you giving him lower marks for his fastball because you didn't see him on that particular day, or is it not a fastball on the same quality as other people in the majors for reasons other than velocity? Or have players like Aroldis changed the definition of a 70-80 fastball?

I think he is more 94-96, bumping higher. That is a comfy 60 knocked a very little bit for command. 70 for me would be up to 98 regularly with command or mid-90s with a lot of life. 80 bump the mphs some for each (100+ straight velo or 97/98 mph with lots of life). If anything, I may be light on his command, which I have heard some evaluators I respect rate as ML average or better right now. I have no doubt it's plus as a future grade. I think the FB as a future 70 is reasonable, but I'm generally conservative as to projecting velo w/HS arms.

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Yeah, but hyperbole is common re: the draft. Kind of like how we seem to have a "once in a generation" talent every 2-4 years. :P

Stotle, can you do that thing where you assign 20-80 ratings to Bundy and do it for him right now and his ceiling?

I'm no Stotle, but here are my grades from a couple months ago:

Grades Current Future

Fastball 60/65 70

Curve 50 55/60

Cutter 55 60/65

Change 40 50/55

Mechanics 55 55/60

Command 50 60

Control 50 55/60

OFP 58-62

OFP ends up the same. I comfortably grade the FB as a future plus-plus. A little less sold on the Change right now, but I think it'll get average or better.

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