Matusz Optioned To Norfolk After The Game

[section18]

Tom Davis just announced that Matusz has been optioned to Norfolk.

[allquixotic]

2011 all over again. Betting he doesn't come back unless we lose 2-3 of our current starters / AAAA starter candidates. They may try him again next year but I think he's done for '12.

Needing to find pitchers who can give us a chance to win is sad, sad, sad.

I guess Matusz' option isn't on the transaction list yet. http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/team/transactions.jsp?c_id=bal#month=7&year=2012&team_id=110

[WEAVERMAN]

Tom Davis just announced that Matusz has been optioned to Norfolk.

Best news I've heard all day and keep him there.

[crissfan172]

Well they really didn't have a choice, did they? He's been terrible over his last 5-6 starts. He needs to go down there and work on his mechanics because something is off, and it certainly isn't his talent.

[EutawBomber]

If I never see Matusz, Hunter or Arietta on the Camden mound again I won't mind a bit. Matusz should be embarassed by what his "career" has become.

[Malike]

Send Jake down with him.

[Flash- bd]

Yes yes, Arrieta, Matusz, off with their heads! Their complete lack of rectitude is inexcusable. The Calvary is nothing but a cognomen for iniquitous sinners. Britton and Tillman, you are next, after your first bad start.

[Frobby]

Yes yes, Arrieta, Matusz, off with their heads! Their complete lack of rectitude is inexcusable. The Calvary is nothing but a cognomen for iniquitous sinners. Britton and Tillman, you are next, after your first bad start.

I'm a big Matusz fan, but he's lost whatever he had in late April and May, and is better off working on his problems in Norfolk. He needs to throw his changeup 20-25 times a game until he regains his feel for it, no matter what the results are. Easier to do that in AAA.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Yes yes, Arrieta, Matusz, off with their heads! Their complete lack of rectitude is inexcusable. The Calvary is nothing but a cognomen for iniquitous sinners. Britton and Tillman, you are next, after your first bad start.

First bad start? Are you kidding me?

[Flash- bd]

I'm a big Matusz fan, but he's lost whatever he had in late April and May, and is better off working on his problems in Norfolk. He needs to throw his changeup 20-25 times a game until he regains his feel for it, no matter what the results are. Easier to do that in AAA.

I'm totally for Matusz being sent down. I stated I would not be against seeing him sent down after his last start.

What I'm against is that Matusz and Arietta are punished for the fact that they brought people's hopes up in the first place. I also take offense to the fact that people complain extra about Arrieta after Matusz's bad start, as if they are somehow related, even though Arrieta pitched 2 days ago and even though it would be really silly at this point to take him out of the rotation.

No doubt Britton and Tillman will get similarly vicious treatment on here should they fail upon being called up.

EDIT: to the above two posters: I'm not sure how you got the idea I was talking about Matusz when I started the sentence with the words "Britton and Tillman"...

[ADAMWD_OsRavens]

I remember how exciting it was back in 2009 when Brian threw 26 straight scoreless innings between Frederick and Bowie. Sad to see how far he has fallen as a player.

I wonder if he has gone back and looked at game tapes of when he was so dominant in the minors vs. now to see what looks different.

[CA-ORIOLE]

No doubt Britton and Tillman will get similarly vicious treatment on here should they fail upon being called up.

EDIT: to the above two posters: I'm not sure how you got the idea I was talking about Matusz when I started the sentence with the words "Britton and Tillman"...

So you weren't relating Matusz's treatment here to what Britton and Tillman would get? This is the Matusz optioned to Norfolk thread. What was the connotation then?

Britton and Tillman, you are next, after your first bad start.

Since you weren't referring to Matusz, why would you think that then? Who has been brutally treated after one bad start?

[Flash- bd]

Because you made a sarcastic remark that Matusz and Arrieta were being unfairly criticized (off with their heads!) and said similar treatment would happen to Tillman and Britton after ONE bad start. For me, that's 2+2=4

Fair enough, I guess it could be interpreted that way, but it doesn't take a genius to know Matusz has had more than one bad start, or Jake for that matter. That said, if I recall correctly I do remember the criticism of Matusz being pretty fierce after his first start of the year...

What I meant to say is that Tillman/Britton will be similarly eviscerated if/when they come up and make a bad start. For Britton it will be: "when's the last time he was good? Even before his injury he hasn't been effective forever. Just another failed of the cavalry. Send him down with his pals Jake and Matusz!" For Tillman it will be: "Same ol' Tillman, why do we even bother?"

[CA-ORIOLE]

What I meant to say is that Tillman/Britton will be similarly eviscerated if/when they come up and make a bad start. For Britton it will be: "when's the last time he was good? Even before his injury he hasn't been effective forever. Just another failed of the cavalry. Send him down with his pals Jake and Matusz!" For Tillman it will be: "Same ol' Tillman, why do we even bother?"

Well, that may be. In Tillman's case I think the frustration is understandable quite frankly. Britton, would probably not be. As far as I'm concerned Matusz got a lot of slack and patience by the vast majority of the board.

[Flash- bd]

Well, that may be. In Tillman's case I think the frustration is understandable quite frankly. Britton, would probably not be. As far as I'm concerned Matusz got a lot of slack and patience by the vast majority of the board.

If you read the two posts directly above my initial post, you'll see that it was really a direct reaction to those two.

As for Tillman, I would have to disagree. I guess my philosophy is just that to rip into any pitcher for one start is pretty absurd. If Chris Tillman comes up and throws 5 consecutive bad outings, fine, condemn him. But if he comes up and throws one, two, even three bad starts he'll still deserve more time to be judged properly. There's no reason his past failures--especially on teams that weren't any good anyways--should be held against him, especially considering he's a lot different pitcher now (more MPH on his FB, better command) than he was before. Just as there's no reason BRob should be given a pass for his putrid hitting just because he produced 5 pretty stellar seasons for us.