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What if a Dempster rental gives us a 2.30 ERA and wins down the stretch? What if we win a wild card and in the wild card Dempster pitches a gem? What if....?

Absolutely no way in hell Dempster pitches that well down the stretch. I doubt he'd even be the best pitcher on the staff the rest of the way. His numbers have f-l-u-k-e written all over him.

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I presume this is some reference to "stupid is as stupid does". Still don't know what DD's done that is stupid. The Guthrie / Hammel trade? Signing Ayala and Chen? Basically putting together the core pieces of the Red Sox resurgence in the 2000s?

I just dont see DD doing this type of deal.... 2 players that have no future here and we trade away 7-8 years of Strop/Flaherty. Not happening if he meant what he has been saying.

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Absolutely no way in hell Dempster pitches that well down the stretch. I doubt he'd even be the best pitcher on the staff the rest of the way. His numbers have f-l-u-k-e written all over him.

No pitcher can ever succeed for the Orioles or the AL East. There is no pitcher that can pitch in the AL East to a low ERA...none.

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I just dont see DD doing this type of deal.... 2 players that have no future here and we trade away 7-8 years of Strop/Flaherty. Not happening if he meant what he has been saying.

People have been begging for Flaherty to go for some time now...others have said that Strop should be traded (or Jim Johnson!) because he is replacable...short term gain.

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No pitcher can ever succeed for the Orioles or the AL East. There is no pitcher that can pitch in the AL East to a low ERA...none.

Seriously Dude ? Youre arguing the merits of a 35 year old pitcher with 4.3 era that is absolutely shooting his load this season so far ...and you expect him to leave the NL parks and lineups and do as well in the AL???

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People have been begging for Flaherty to go for some time now...others have said that Strop should be traded (or Jim Johnson!) because he is replacable...short term gain.

You trade Strop to a team needing a young closer for a closers return ... Not Dempster/Soriano

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Terrible trade for the Orioles .... Soriano is trash .... Dempster is a rental .... No way they are getting Strop...Flaherty I dont care about ...and really all moving Reynolds be traded in this deal does is move Davis to 1B and puts another poor fielding LF in our outfield.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but how is he 'trash'? He'd come in and be the team leader in RBI's, be top 5 in runs, ops, slugging, average, HR, and WAR. He has no errors and has above average UZR. Now, I'm no fan, but I really can't see how this guy is trash. Before you jump on me or call me stupid, I want to be clear that this is an honest question. To the average (me), I really can't see why trading for him, assuming most of his contract was paid by the cubs, is a bad thing...especially considering Reynolds is going to get expensive next year if he's still around.

I'll say it then...he is wrong and Soriano wouldn't be trash.

Soriano is having a pretty decent year. IF the talk about this trade is true...this would be a big win for the Orioles. Yeah it would cost us Strop, that'd hurt but if it means getting a top starter and another guy that has power by all means go for it. Reynolds is going to be inconsequential because he won't be here next year. Davis goes to 1st, we put Soriano in the OF...makes sense to me. I think it'd be too good to be true actually.

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Just passing along a tid-bit a friend of mine who lives in Chicago told me..He's has no sources just second hand info he heard on the radio out there...

O's get Dempster, Soriano , and cash

Cubs get- Strop, Flaherty, and Reynolds

Like I said its second hand info. Could be all speculation.

Maybe he is spelling Garza wrong :P:D. However I wouldn't mind it.

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