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That was inexcusably poor, but I wouldnt trade ya for anyone. Relentless pursuit of continuous improvement, even for the Skipper.

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Yeah, Buck had a bad one tonight. He either over managed or under managed, but in the end, pretty much everything he did or didn't do back fired tonight. It happens. Glad to see the offense have quality at bats. Terrible night by the bullpen of course, but what in the world is Tommy Hunter doing pitching in a tie game in the 9th? With his penchant to give up the long ball, he should never be in a tie or one-run game in the 9th or later unless he's the only option. Not a good choice by Buck, but like we said, it was a tough game for Buck tonight.

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The game thread gets ridiculous. It's better just not to go over there for me. You can second guess everything that turns out bad. The bullpen blew it. Pretty simple. Ayala hung a terrible pitch to Duncan. Strop wasn't good but not nearly as bad as the line looks. He didn't walk anyone and gave up a bunt, weak grounder that beat the shift, and a soft blooper into CF by Zobrist. Hunter was ok for an inning but I could see the homer coming. 94 mph straight fastballs down the middle are going to get hit a long way. Still, Chen kept his team in the game to say the least. Davis with a great night. Reimold worked two big walks. McLouth with a big hit and Roberts with the big double in the 9th. They had a chance. They just didn't get it done tonight. The second guessing of Buck in the game thread is hilarious.

Yeah, it's probably best if you stay out. You don't have the personality that allows for some fun in a game thread. It was easy to second guess Buck because Buck made some bad choices tonight. It happens. It's not the end of the world nor does it mean Buck is not a great manager, but it doesn't mean Buck didn't deserve to be "second guessed" (mos of the "second guesses" came BEFORE the bad thing that happened.

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It's also the second game of the season. In Buck's defense, it's a new year and he can't dial in who is going to perform in which situations and who isn't at this point. No doubt that he had a bad game, but I agree that this one's on the bullpen, not on Buck. Exactly zero of our relievers were effective.

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It's also the second game of the season. In Buck's defense, it's a new year and he can't dial in who is going to perform in which situations and who isn't at this point. No doubt that he had a bad game, but I agree that this one's on the bullpen, not on Buck. Exactly zero of our relievers were effective.

Yep, no doubt. Buck wasn't good tonight, or at the very least, every move or non-move he made backfired, but his pen gave up seven runs. That's not going to win many games.

Tell you what though, Chris Davis is looking like a monster this year!

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what in the world is Tommy Hunter doing pitching in a tie game in the 9th? With his penchant to give up the long ball, he should never be in a tie or one-run game in the 9th or later unless he's the only option

This here.

The only thing I can think of why Buck would go with Hunter here is to give him a shot. It' early, and this could help build his confidence. With that said, I still don't want Hunter in a close game pitching, EVER!:rolleyes:

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Yep, this L goes to BS. His over shifts helped create the big inning. He got out thunked tonight. Are they hiding BM? It seems to me that they must be unsure about Tillman readiness.

Totally disagree that this is on Showalter. The bounces went Tampa's way. Nick hit a hard grounder over the 2B bag and they've shifted to that exact spot, they hit a weak grounder right at the usual SS spot but Hardy's playing right at 2B just like Escobar had done. That's the way the ball bounces sometimes.

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The game thread gets ridiculous. It's better just not to go over there for me. You can second guess everything that turns out bad. The bullpen blew it. Pretty simple. Ayala hung a terrible pitch to Duncan. Strop wasn't good but not nearly as bad as the line looks. He didn't walk anyone and gave up a bunt, weak grounder that beat the shift, and a soft blooper into CF by Zobrist. Hunter was ok for an inning but I could see the homer coming. 94 mph straight fastballs down the middle are going to get hit a long way. Still, Chen kept his team in the game to say the least. Davis with a great night. Reimold worked two big walks. McLouth with a big hit and Roberts with the big double in the 9th. They had a chance. They just didn't get it done tonight. The second guessing of Buck in the game thread is hilarious.

I was positive the entire evening in the game thread. I had faith in the comeback. I said Brob would take care of business in the 9th. I said we would score on Rodney. This was just a tough night for Buck. I dont get consumed in what everyone else is ranting/melting down about, I kept it positive through negative post after negative post. Its the nature of in-game threads. I know them well. Its a good place to vent and enjoy rooting for your team with people who care as much as you do, thats all.

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Yep, no doubt. Buck wasn't good tonight, or at the very least, every move or non-move he made backfired, but his pen gave up seven runs. That's not going to win many games.

Tell you what though, Chris Davis is looking like a monster this year!

Dempsey has already proclaimed Davis will be the toughest out in the majors this year. I remember he said Nolan Reimold will hit 50 home runs last year after his hot start.

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Yeah, Buck had a bad one tonight. He either over managed or under managed, but in the end, pretty much everything he did or didn't do back fired tonight. It happens. Glad to see the offense have quality at bats. Terrible night by the bullpen of course, but what in the world is Tommy Hunter doing pitching in a tie game in the 9th? With his penchant to give up the long ball, he should never be in a tie or one-run game in the 9th or later unless he's the only option. Not a good choice by Buck, but like we said, it was a tough game for Buck tonight.

He will win more for us than he loses, things just worked against him tonight. He and Joe Madden going at it is always fun to watch, Joe got the better of this one and stole it from us. I'd take Buck over anyone. We all know Buck is looking at this games and figuring out ways he can improve how he manages this team. Just one of those nights really.

As you noted, when Hunter came back out in the 9th, I think a lot of us were scared of the HR. Sure enough, a flat, high, slow (compared to his first inning) FB is annihilated. We had arms and we were given new life and Buck rolled the dice when he didnt have to. Tommy Hunter has an inning of electric stuff, he does not have two.

People have tough nights as Posters on the forums lol, Buck had a bad one and I hate it for him more than anyone because he wont sleep tonight. Its amazing that with a huge strike zone, so many runs didnt net us a win @ TB. It was great to see Roberts, again, with a late game clutch hit. One of my all time favorites. Roberts with opposite field doubles .... it used to seem like he hit them every single night. As he gets comfortable, Im sure Buck will adjust the lineup and let Manny go back down and gain some experience with less pressure to produce/move runners. Thats not something Manny is ready for, but we have guys who can do it and Buck will sort it out.

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Of course you do. The shift that got Markakis was not as extreme as Buck's. If you are using data from the previous year for your shifts, they may not be quite the same this early in the season. Bats may not be quite as quick, pitchers are not necessarily hitting spots. I am not a Buck hater. I don't care to allow the leadoff batter getting on base so cheaply, especially one that has good bat control. Let him earn it.

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