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I think it does show that they mishandled his innings last year. He should have been able to handle a fair bit more of a workload then he did.

Kevin himself said his time in the major league pen taught him how to "pitch"at this level.

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Really? Never heard that before. I know that the option is not used if the players does not stay in the minors for 20 days of over a whole season. Never heard that about service time.

As Buck as explained, sending Gausman down is about innings limits not service time.

Here is the rule, but I misremembered it in a material respect:

If a Player is optionally assigned for a total of less than 20 days in one championship season, the Player shall be credited with Major League

service during the period of such optional assignment(s).

Since that speaks to the total days that a player is optioned during a season, then I guess Gausman does not get service time if he is recalled within 20 days, since he already has been optioned for more than 20 days total during the season.

Gausman was at 71 days before this season began. I think he's accrued about 23 days so far this season. There are 83 days remaining in the regular season. So, the latest move does have a very significant impact. If Gausman had spent the rest of the year in the majors, he would have exceeded 172 days of cumulative service time, which is treated as a full year under the CBA. But with his latest assignment, he won't have accrued a total of more than 163 days by the end of this year, leaving him just slightly short of a full year of service time. So, this assignment means we keep Gausman for an additional year compared to what would have happened if Gausman had never been sent to the minors again. Frankly, I'm delighted about that, and fully support the move.

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Kevin himself said his time in the major league pen taught him how to "pitch"at this level.

That doesn't mean that they couldn't have upped his workload or even sent him to the AFL to build up some innings. As is will he be a full go next season or will they be worried if he exceeds 200 innings?

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As is will he be a full go next season or will they be worried if he exceeds 200 innings?

I'd love for the 200 inning limit to actually come into play. That only happens if a pitcher misses no starts and averages more than 6 IP per start. Right now we don't have a single pitcher on pace for 200 innings, though Tillman conceivably could get there, barely. So, I'm not going to worry much about that limit being a serious constraint on Gausman next year.

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I'd love for the 200 inning limit to actually come into play. That only happens if a pitcher misses no starts and averages more than 6 IP per start. Right now we don't have a single pitcher on pace for 200 innings, though Tillman conceivably could get there, barely. So, I'm not going to worry much about that limit being a serious constraint on Gausman next year.

Hopefully there will be playoff starts to worry about.

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If this gives the O's a 7th year of control due to service time and it sets Gausman up to pitch every 5th day in the rotation after the ASB and the entire second half of the season without him having to worry about the up/down situation anymore I think it's a win/win. Who goes to the pen? Gonzalez I guess with Norris coming back healthy.

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(JULY 12th)

Showalter on Gausman: "He's ready to pitch until our season ends. I know he's pretty happy about that."

https://twitter.com/masnRoch/status/488012537158721536

Encouraging to hear.

We'll see if that actually comes to fruition in about 2 and-a-half months.

Don't you mean 3 and-a-half months? If the season ends in 2-1/2, there will be a lot of disappointed O's fans.

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(JULY 12th)

Showalter on Gausman: "He's ready to pitch until our season ends. I know he's pretty happy about that."

https://twitter.com/masnRoch/status/488012537158721536

Encouraging to hear.

We'll see if that actually comes to fruition in about 2 and-a-half months.

Don't you mean 3 and-a-half months? If the season ends in 2-1/2, there will be a lot of disappointed O's fans.

No, I the reason why I said 2 and-a-half months is because at that time (late Spetember), it will likely be evident as to whether or not Gausman will continue on pitching until the end of the season (and the postseason, should we make it.)

I'm countin', and thinkin', and postin', all at the same time. :laughlol:

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Kevin himself said his time in the major league pen taught him how to "pitch"at this level.

Good talking point for the org, but developmentally it obviously wasn't a huge boon. He apparently wasn't ready to start the season with the team in any event, and he missed out on a significant number of innings that could have likewise been pretty darn useful in further developing his profile.

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We can't afford to lose the series at home to the Yankees with no Tanaka, no Beltran, and a host of other "No's" in the lineup.Good luck Kevin.

Eh, it's a loooong season. Tomorrow night is one of those games that would be HUGE to win, but wouldn't be completely devastating to lose. The key this weekend was not to get swept. Worst case, we'll have a 2-game lead over the Jays and a 3-game lead over NY going into the break. Is there anyone on this board who wouldn't have happily accepted that scenario a month ago?

Even so, I really hope we take the series! Seeing so many NY fans at OPACY this week has been pretty nauseating; sure would like to send them all home disappointed tomorrow night.

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