Excellent article on pitch framing and how the Orioles amongst others have benefitted

[xian4]

Blue Jays have taken a pounding in the AL East

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/who-has-been-helped-and-hurt-the-most-by-the-art-of-pitch-framing-082214

[gpolee]

Interesting that Hundley was said to be poor at pitch framing in San Diego. Guess it's all about Caleb.

Too bad there is not part of that metric that considers bad umpiring.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Interesting that Hundley was said to be poor at pitch framing in San Diego. Guess it's all about Caleb.

Too bad there is not part of that metric that considers bad umpiring.

Not sure about this data but some do adjust for umpires and pitchers.

[isestrex]

I thought Caleb was good... nice to see some confirmation in the numbers.

And Lucroy, holy crap is he good.

[CA-ORIOLE]

I thought Caleb was good... nice to see some confirmation in the numbers.

And Lucroy, holy crap is he good.

Maldanado (the backup) usually rates very high as well. Appears to be something the Brewers emphasize.

[Can_of_corn]

I thought Caleb was good... nice to see some confirmation in the numbers.

And Lucroy, holy crap is he good.

I read a piece a day or two ago suggesting that Locroy is good enough to influence the pitch locations from his pitchers. In other words his pitchers are more likely to aim low in the zone knowing that he can get them that pitch.

If true that is a nice advantage.

[baltfan]

This is definitely hard to parse out. I am sure that it has a lot to do with the pitchers as well. Some guys surely are naturally better at being able to put pitches just off the plate. Glavine was a master at this. At a certain point you have to question who is really responsible for getting the close calls.

I would also be very interested to see whether pitchers like Jimenez get the same rate of close calls as others.

[awannabegeek]

Christian Vazquez, Brian McCann, Jose Molina, and Caleb Joseph. All those guys are established or developing quality receivers.

Who would have ever thought you would read this?

[Can_of_corn]

Who would have ever thought you would read this?

I need to stop drinking expired box wine.

[AdamK]

I read a piece a day or two ago suggesting that Locroy is good enough to influence the pitch locations from his pitchers. In other words his pitchers are more likely to aim low in the zone knowing that he can get them that pitch.

If true that is a nice advantage.

When Britton has been at his best, Caleb has been plucking strikes right off his shoe tops.

[Frobby]

BP's Framing Runs per 7000 pitches (2014):

Joseph 16.2

Hundley 4.2

Wieters 1.9

All three above average, though Joseph is crazy high. Not sure I buy it.

[Can_of_corn]

BP's Framing Runs per 7000 pitches (2014):

Joseph 16.2

Hundley 4.2

Wieters 1.9

All three above average, though Joseph is crazy high. Not sure I buy it.

That is the biggest issue I have with framing, the ends of the curve.

[LoyalBirdFan]

:rofl:

[Il BuonO]

Here's some more on framing and it's importance in developing catchers.

“A lot of guys in pro ball don’t like the term – they prefer ‘receiving’ – but you are framing the strike zone,” said Weinstein. “With fastballs, pitchers only hit their target 24% of the time. A catcher’s job is to help the pitcher any way he can.”

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/sunday-notes-badenhop-perez-weinstein-on-framing-cowart-renda-more/

[xian4]

Caleb Joseph needs to catch everytime Ubaldo pitches.