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I keep coming on here waiting for someone to call out manny and nothing

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Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

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I don't think Manny has played his best in any facet of the game to this point, and I do think he lets his frustration show a bit too much at times. I also said I thought he'd have an .850+ OPS this season, play Gold Glove defense and be a top 5 MVP candidate. I still believe that.

Everything is magnified right now because we're losing. When we start pitching better, things will pick up. Errors hurt the pitching, but the pitchers need to man up and minimize the damage at times.

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I keep hearing "he's gonna get better, he's gonna get better." Still waiting. The same was said and still is about Davis. Still waiting. I think Manny is a good player, but I'm not to sure he's ever going to turn into that cornerstone franchise player that we all hoped for.

He is one of two handfuls of players that have produced at the level that he has. Most of them are now in the Hall of Fame. I'll take him, youngster issues and all. He is like some of the other ultra young stars. They have had too much fame too early.

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Guy has got to get in check. Talented as hell but cries after every called strike, plays defense like he can make every play without trying to hard, makes errors because of it. I keep looking for this thread and had to make it myself.

I am glad you sparked the conversation that no one else chose to address. Is this thread calling out Manny or the community though? I'm confused.

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Guy has got to get in check. Talented as hell but cries after every called strike, plays defense like he can make every play without trying to hard, makes errors because of it. I keep looking for this thread and had to make it myself.

There are others players that are screwing up. Why do you just want to point out

Manny? He is young and emotional. Good night you could have pointed out the

pitching. It's been bad. As for Manny think of the good he does. That far

outweighs a few errors or being pissed because he made an out. IMO

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I like seeing a bit of passion and desire from the players, just as long as the emotions doesn't directly affect their play.

As a fan, seeing a player strike out at a critical moment in the game then strolling back to the dugout showing no emotion would wind me up more than seeing that the player *cares* as much as I do that we screwed the chance up

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He's getting a reputation of being a guy that makes the amazing defensive play but not the routine IMO. Saw it in ST and it's carried over.

That's not his reputation and three errors in 17 games isn't going to change it.

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Manny had an awful game tonight, but he has the talent to be an elite player. Right now he's allowing his emotions to get the best of him. Whether it's swinging through a fastball in the middle of the plate on a 3-2 count in a key moment or taking that failure to the field, Manny looked like a 21-year old tonight.

Saying all of that, he will be fine and will get better. The pitching and defense is this team's biggest issue right now, although clutch hitting has been pretty bad as well.

He popped up a hittable (slower) fastball in the ninth in a key situation, also. It was not one of his better days. If the team had been playing better this season, and the loss would have made our record 10-7 instead of 7-10, I think there would be less attention paid to Manny's bad game.

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I think Manny will be fine in the long run. But let's be honest, he has not played well on defense this season. It cost us a couple of runs on Patriot's Day and it probably cost us the game tonight. I hope that he gains maturity as he ages and I hope that he can rediscover his focus on defense.

It didn't cost us the game. It didn't even allow a run to score. All it did was extend the inning. There were still two outs, and one of our best relivers was in the game. Manny didn't force O'Day to throw a lousy 1-2 pitch to the next batter for a three run homer..

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